Dain Sundstrom wrote:
On Mar 13, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Dain Sundstrom wrote:
On Mar 13, 2006, at 3:09 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
public interface Monitor {
public void monitorEvent(
<some type> eventType,
<another type> eventData );
}
and I hadn't worked out what <some type> or <another type> was. I
figured that you could then add events w/o worrying about clients,
because a client would simply ignore any type it didn't know how to
handle. One less thing to worry about when upgrading the kernel.
I thought of a few approaches, such as <some type> == int and
<another type> depends on the approach you wanted to take. Map (for
named values), Object[] for a known set of values, or even some base
MonitorData which the client could cast to the appropriate type if
it understood the eventType, or if not, call toString() or something
to get *something* to put in the log to inform a human that
something new was coming out...
I considered this style, but it occurred to me that everyone would
write a listener containing a switch, which seems like busy work to
me. Also, this style event assumes that every event fires the same
data.
Agreed on the switch issue (but figured there might be a helper for
that...)
Re the issues of same data, sorry, I wasn't clear - I thought that
there'd be something like a baseclass
public class EventBase {
String msg;
public String toString() {
return msg;
}
}
and then things like
public class KernelNotificationError extends EventBase {
ServiceMonitor monitor;
ServiceEvent event;
Throwable t;
}
for each of the events that the kernel or services generate.
so
public interface Monitor {
void monitorEvent( int type, EventBase data);
}
Considered that also :) The problem is you simply hide the complexity
in the code. Since each type can have it's own monitory class you end
up with magic "type" values in you switch case that assume a specific
sub class and cast to it.
Oh, definitely. That's why I noted that there are some very non-OO
solutions out there... (or think I did...)
Regardless of the solution you pick you end up with code somewhere that
has a map from event type to event data, and I prefer to make that
explicit, so you get a compile error instead of a subtle runtime error.
I think the best way to deal with this is to encourage every one to
extend the NullMonitor which provides no-op implementations of every
method. That way they always pickup new methods.
I couldn't find it. Does it have something like
There isn't one for KernelMonitor since it only has one method, but
there is one for ServiceMonitor.
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/xbean/trunk/xbean-kernel/src/main/java/org/apache/xbean/kernel/NullServiceMonitor.java
public abstract class NullMonitor {
public void eventOne(...whatever ) {
unOverridden( ... make a nice string.... );
}
public void eventTwo(.... whatever ... ) {
unOverridden{ ...... make a nice string .... );
}
...
public abstract unOverridden(String s);
}
If you grok what I mean (I did a redeye last night to UK and I'm
pretty beat right now...)
I used a structure like that in the past and people didn't like it.
As I wrote before, the biggest issue with using a Monitor is the work
involved in designing the monitor interfaces. If they are to
specific, you don't have upgrade problems, and if they are too
generic they are difficult to use. You also need to choose how many
monitors you need and the granularity. All of these are very tricky
issues to get right the first time you write a system. In XBean, I
had an advantage as it was the 4th kernel system I've written, so I
already knew the events users would want to monitor.
You may write a 5th one day :)
I already have plans for a major revision to XBean that I will consider
the 5th revision. :)
YBean? Then the end, ZBean, is in sight for you...
-dain
