Thanks Mark for you feedback. I fully agree about the smart-gui issue, I also think desktop users have some sort of panic to commanline, thus we can't force them to traverse this frightening situation.... :-D Imho I consider that a healthy channel configuration should be offered to users out-of-the-box as well. Ignoring this will only do more a more new testing users undestimate the quality of this distro; stability and speed won't be enough for many, easy and usability will mark the difference.

Although I haven't tested the latest Yoper ISO yet (I will tho), I think is quite worrying all the sound problem you have experienced. I'll pay especial attention to this when I do my own installation and I think everyone should do the same....

Best regards! ;-)

From: Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: yoper-dev@lists.yoper.com
Subject: [yoper-dev] Weekly iso test report
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:32:44 +0000

A quick note of how the install of the Weekly iso 3 went.

I installed to a partition on my main system which was already partitioned
into a 9 gig root, 512mb swap and 40 gig home.
The install went smoothly and I chose to manually add the info to my existing
bootloader, so I cannot comment on how well Yoper picked up the other
partitions on there.

Issues found are -

1 As in the VMWare install, the CD is not detected after rebooting the first
time, despite following the comments on the forum about only inserting CD
when asked. To add the CD so I could grab the various files, I needed to add
the installcd option which is mentioned in the forum (the info I received
from Tobias in the irc chat).

2 No GUI is installed - presumably because of the CD issue above. I had no
problems getting the gui installed once I could add the CD to the smart
channels. This needs to be sorted for users however!

3 Powernow fails. I thought it may be simply down to the VMWare install I was
using before, but it still fails - despite powernow working on the same
system with other distros. Not a vital issue, but another small niggle which
users will pick up on.

4 Sound. A horrific mess here! During install, all seemed to be OK - the
alsaconf thing came up and correctly identified the card etc. However, when
attempting to use the system, the Soundserver crash dialog was coming up
every second or so at times! So frequently that it was unusable - I could not even type into a command line to kill artsd as the focus kept being stolen by
the sound server crash box! Attempting to sort it via the Sound System box
from the System menu was useless - it kept locking up/crashing the
soundserver etc. I disabled the sound system in there but it kept throwing up
the soundserver crash box.
Are others having this issue? I am prepared to look into it if it is common.

5 Packages. As I mentioned before, I think smartpm-gui needs to be installed
as part of the gui system so users can use smart without resorting to the
command line.
Also I still think the smart channel which is there by default is incorrect.
What should the correct channel actually be? I am currently using just the
CD.
Because of the problems with the soundserver, I was limited to a few test
package installs. These ran fine - smart works well. I did find Firefox
failed to both add an icon to either the desktop or Internet section of the
menu, and also failed to actually work. Even launching from a command line, I
got nothing - no error messages but no Firefox either. That may be me -
perhaps some dependancy is missing from the spec?

Sorry this all sounds a bit negative. I think the system is looking good and
is fast! But these little issues will be picked up by users and we need to
consider them before a final release I think.

Mark
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