What does he mean by "New" shows? Are they newly discovered or just new to his newsletter? I read something somewhere that implied that shows are being leaked from the "Vaults" to the bootleg circuit. (EZT and trade lists) Could this be related to that?
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Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 12:56 PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] FW: RDNZL #9

Guess I'm too stupid to know I'm a subscriber, which probably means I
shouldn't be one. Anyone know how to get this stuff?

After all, I wouldn't want to belong to any group that would have me as a

With apologies to Woody Allen,


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Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 2:02 PM
To: RDNZL subscribers
Subject: RDNZL #9

  == RDNZL #9 (Feb. 2005) ==

Hey there-
It's been over a year since the last issue of RDNZL. This is all due to
personal reasons - my life has changed in oh so many ways, all of them nice,
but they don't give me much time for FZ activities. If I'd had the time,
there would have been many RDNZLs in 2004, because it's been quite an
interesting year on  the Zappa show front.  I'm only mentioning the brand
new shows here, plus some very significant upgrades, but in addition to
these, many new sources for circulating shows have appeared.

The first three shows surfaced shortly after RDNZL #8, and came from the
same taper as the three 68-69 NYC shows I reported about then:

  * Fillmore East, Feb. 21, 1969, early show.
It seems the show we used to have from this date is the late show, as this
one came labelled "early". Another fine show, in rather poor sound, and with
the same speed problems as the other shows from this source.

21-Feb 1969, Fillmore East, NYC, NY
Early show: 60 min, Aud, B-/C+
Charles Ives, Lonely Lonely Nights, Bacon Fat, Uncle Meat, drum duet, Right
There, Begin The Beguine, improvisations with Bunk's Tape (incl. Are You
Upset? [YCDTOSA 4]), Run Home Slow, Little March, Right There, King Kong,


  * Fillmore East, Jun. 13 & 14 1969, early shows.
This show and the following one both include "The MOI Electric Bassoon
Concerto", but the performances are different from each other. They both
include sections from Low Budget Orchestra, as well as unidentified composed
material and improvisations. Very interesting, too bad they both have those
speed problems

13-Jun 1969, Fillmore East, NYC, NY
Early show: 45 min, Aud, B
MOI Electric Bassoon Concerto, Valarie, King Kong, Uncle Meat, drum duet,
Some Ballet Music

14-Jun 1969, Fillmore East, NYC, NY
Early show: 45 min, Aud, B
Bacon Fat, MOI Electric Bassoon Concerto, King Kong, Uncle Meat


* Santa Monica, Aug. 21 1970
Almost twice as long, and better sounding than the commonly
circulating version. I think this has been in limited circulation
before, but this the first time I've ran across it. Seems the
bootlegger (or whoever created the short version) preferred the
lyrical songs to the instrumentals.

21-Aug 1970, Santa Monica Civic Center, Santa Monica, CA
100 min, Aud, A-
An abridged version (54 min) is commonly circulating as "Jul 1971, El
Monte Legion Stadium".
Agon, Call Any Vegetable, Pound For A Brown, Sleeping In A Jar,
Sharleena, The Air, Dog Breath, Mother People, You Didn't Try To Call
Me, King Kong, Road Ladies, What Will This Morning Bring Me This
Evening?, What Kind Of Girl Do You Think We Are?, Bwana Dik, Latex
Solar Beef, Daddy Daddy Daddy, Do You Like My New Car?, Happy
Together, What Will This Evening Bring Me This Morning?, Would You Go
All The Way?, Rudy Wants To Buy Yez A Drink, Wonderful Wino,
Concentration Moon, Mom And Dad

* Annapolis, May 19 1973

19-May 1973, Great McGonigle's Seaside Park, Annapolis, MD
94 min, Aud, B
RDNZL, Dog/Meat, Fifty-Fifty, Montana, Dupree's Paradise (q: Tiny
Bubbles), Eat That Question, Yellow Snow Suite, Farther Oblivion

* Landover, Nov. 1 1974

1-Nov 1974, Capital Centre, Landover, MD
75 min, Aud, B+
Dog Meat, Building A Girl, Montana, improvisations (q: Mozart Piano
Sonata), Yellow Snow Suite, Cosmik Debris, Camarillo Brillo, Pygmy
Twylyte (q: Mozart Piano Sonata), Room Service, Tush Tush Tush

* Baton Rouge, Sep. 17 1977

17-Sep 1977, Assembly Center, Lousiana State University, Baton Rouge,
59 min, Aud, A-
Intro, Peaches En Regalia, The Torture Never Stops, Tryin' To Grow A
Chin, City Of Tiny Lights, Pound For A Brown, Flakes, Big Leg Emma,
Envelopes, Disco Boy

* Manchester, Feb. 12 1979
Nearly complete and nearly perfect-sounding, this version almost make
the circulating FM and audience versions obsolete. Only problem is,
it's missing the essential last 15 min of the show. Still, very well
worth having.

12-Feb 1979, Apollo Theater, Manchester, England
133 min, SBD, A+
Persona Non Grata, Dead Girls Of London, I Ain't Got No Heart, Brown
Shoes Don't Make It, Cosmik Debris, Tryin' To Grow A Chin, City Of
Tiny Lights, Dancin' Fool, Easy Meat, Jumbo Go Away, Andy, Inca
Roads, Florentine Pogen, Honey Don't You Want A Man Like Me?, Keep It
Greasey, The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing, For The Young Sophisticate,
Wet T-shirt Nite, Why Does It Hurt When I Pee?, Peaches En Regalia,
Yellow Snow Suite, Strictly Genteel, Montana, Pound For A Brown

* Portland, Mar. 29 1980

29-Mar 1980, Paramount Theater, Portland, OR
Late show: 111 min, Aud, B
Treacherous Cretins, Teenage Wind, Harder Than Your Husband,
Bamboozled By Love, Pick Me I'm Clean, Society Pages, I'm A Beautiful
Guy, Beauty Knows No Pain, Charlie's Enormous Mouth, Any Downers?,
Conehead, Easy Meat, Mudd Club, The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing,
Heavenly Bank Account, Suicide Chump, Jumbo Go Away, If Only She
Woulda, I Don't Wanna Get Drafted, Joe's Garage, Why Does It Hurt
When I Pee?, Dinah Moe Humm, Dancin' Fool, Bobby Brown, Pound For A

* Portland, Oct. 1 1981

1-Oct 1981, Paramount Theatre, Portland, OR
Early show: 88 min, Aud, B-
Chunga's Revenge, You Are What You Is, Mudd Club, The Meek Shall
Inherit Nothing, Dumb All Over, Heavenly Bank Account, Suicide Chump,
Jumbo Go Away, Envelopes, We're Turning Again, Alien Orifice, Teenage
Prostitute, Flakes, Broken Hearts Are For Assholes, Tinseltown
Rebellion, Yo Mama, Joe's Garage, Why Does It Hurt When I Pee?,
Strictly Genteel

 * Cincinatti., Nov. 20 1981

20-Nov 1981, Riverfront Coliseum, Cincinnati, OH
114 min, Aud, C
Treacherous Cretins, Cosmik Debris, Sharleena, Montana, Easy Meat,
YAWYI, Mudd Club, The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing, Dumb All Over,
Heavenly Bank Account, Suicide Chump, Jumbo Go Away, Envelopes,
Drowning Witch, What's New In Baltimore?, Moggio, Broken Hearts Are
For Assholes, Blue Light, Tinseltown Rebellion, Yo Mama, Strictly

* Rehearsals, Dec. 23 1987
No FZ present on this recording, but still a very nice insight into
how the '88 band worked.

23-Dec 1987, UMRK, Los Angeles, CA
89 min, SBD, A
Jezebel Boy, When The Lie's So Big, Planet Of The Baritone Women,
What's New In Baltimore?, Moggio, I Ain't Got No Heart, Heavy Duty
Judy, Filthy Habits, Pound For A Brown, Disco Boy, Pound For A Brown,
Big Swifty, Who Needs The Peace Corps?, I Left My Heart in San
Francisco, Let's Move To Cleveland, Dancin' Fool, RDNZL, Strictly
Genteel, Andy, Inca Roads, Hot Plate Heaven At The Green Hotel, Stick
Together, My Guitar Wants To Kill Your Mama, Willie The Pimp,
Montana, Easy Meat, Peaches En Regalia, Sofa, Black Napkins, Black


I *think* that's all of the new shows, but I may very well have
forgotten something, in which case I'm sure someone will remind me,
and I'll send out an appendix. Or include it in RDNZL #10, which I
hopefully will have reason and time to send out in a not-too-distant

  - Jon

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