A new list, I am not sure that a new one is needed.  Just want to get on the Vine that is real & growing. 
If you put them together that would be fine with me. 
 
If there are any further ideas on why two Vines got started, it would be helpful in the future to prevent this type of false / uncontrolled growth.  I know our goals are to share this great music without a lot of overhead.
 
Regards
Joe.DP
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC)

Hi Everyone...So are we making a new list for this?
----- Original Message -----
From: lusi tanio
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC)

I don´t think there is a pal vine. Let´s blame the computers. But is clear that somehow two vines grow up. I think we should make a new list, I don´t bother to be at the tail.
Luis


Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Nick and all,
                       I think it was planned to have 2 vines for PAL and NTSC, because I asked Michael about that and was waiting for the PAL to show up. I am pretty sure it didn't..But because Michaels has been busy and I didn't want to pester him, and I couldn't wait, I jumped in on the NTSC very late.
So that cant be the reason why there seems to be two lines....What is the agreed correct line now? I will join the end.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC)

Hi, I think you'll find there are two vines - one PAL for Europe and one
NTSC for the USA.

I haven't received from Michael yet, will let you know when it does,




                        Kind Regards, nick




----Original Message Follows----
From: "Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
To: <Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels
True Story (3 DVD NTSC)
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 01:16:32 +0100

I found these two totally different lines....so, its not all me..it was
messed up before I messed it up....

<< [EMAIL PROTECTED] << mr. Skull << thierry barbier (
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) << [EMAIL PROTECTED] << [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<


and

<< [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]<< [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<
[EMAIL PROTECTED] << [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<

I can't pass on this Vine, so here it goes again with a promise to pass to
the next.

Regards:
Joe.DP

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: Joe Della Posta
   To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 12:36 AM
   Subject: [Zappa-List] New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels
True Story (3 DVD NTSC)


   Now guys I am really confused:  This is what I have sent.
   What do you think is happening??  As of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was on this Vine.
   Where am I???

   Help Please
   Joe.DP

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Joe Della Posta
   To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:43 PM
   Subject: [Zappa-List] New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200 Motels
True Story (3 DVD NTSC)


   << [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]<< [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] << [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<

   I can't pass on this Vine, so here it goes again with a promise to pass
to the next.

   Regards:
   Joe.DP

     ----- Original Message -----
     From: Richard
     To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
     Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 7:12 PM
     Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell & 200
Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC)


     << [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]<< [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<
     [EMAIL PROTECTED] Luis  << Richard Moore UK <<

     hey luis, its my fault most likely..i tried to find the end of the line
and messed up...sorry..
       ----- Original Message -----
       From: lusi tanio
       To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
       Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:26 PM
       Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell &
200 Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC)


       humm....somehow I disappear from the list. Is there another branch of
this vine? Michael? Sofa?
       thanks, Luis

       Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
         << [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]<< [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<
         [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Richard Moore UK <<

         Thanks
           ----- Original Message -----
           From: Michael Painter
           To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
           Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:12 AM
           Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell &
200 Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC)


           << [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]<< [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<
           [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<

          
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           --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "larksss2003"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
           > Hi Michael
           >
           > Please,include me in the vine,I promise to
revine,regards,Alexandre.
           >
           >
           >
           >
           > --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Painter"
           > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
           > > << [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<
           > >
           > >
--------------------------------------------------------------------
           > ----
           > > Remember onlist(on the group) replies, not OFFLIST! for
Zappa-List
           > >
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           > --
           > > Hi Folks,
           > >
           > > well sofa has agreed that I can vine these so here goes...
           > >
           > >
           > > Michael.
           > >
--------------------------------------------------------------------
           > ---
           > >
           > > details....
           > >
           > > Uncle Meat.
           > > ===========
           > >
           > > Songs include:
           > > The Uncle Meat Variations, Dog Breath, In The Year Of The
Plague,
           > Mr.
           > > GreenGenes, Holiday In Berlin Full-Blown, Mother People, I'm
Not
           > > Satisfied,Tengo Na Minchia Tanta (Written by Frank Zappa and
Massimo
           > > Bassoli)
           > >
           > > The was movie started in 67 with the original Mothers of
Invention.
           > > Finished in88 or 89 and released on videotape. The movie has
           > basically
           > > 2 parts to it.
           > > One is based on the live concert footage of the Mothers plus
a small
           > > orchestra in the London Festival Hall in 68. This footage is
based
           > on
           > > the story of members of the band quitting to start their own
band
           > > eitherbecause they want a band of all disciplined music or
they want
           > > to escape from under Zappa's shadow and play real rock and
roll. The
           > > remainder of the movie is made up of Dom DeWild (Don Preston)
           > > pretending to be a Jeckyl and Hyde sort. Really wierd. There
are
           > also
           > > some videos of the band for the songs Mr. Green Genes and
Holiday in
           > > Berlin (from Burnt Weenie Sandwich). The concert footage is
good and
           > > the videos are fun, but the rest is just plain bizzare.
           > >
           > >
------------------------------------------------------------------
           > > Video From Hell.
           > > ================
           > >
           > > Includes:
           > >
           > >     * "Video From Hell" Animated Sequence by Bruce Bickford,
c.
           > 1974-78
           > >     * "G-Spot Tornado" c. 1962-63
           > >     * Sigma TV Interview, December 19, 1986
           > >     * Excerpts from Secrets Of The U.M.R.K.
           > >     * St. Etienne, France, May 28, 1982 by Thomas Nordegg
           > >     * Ex Mattatoio di Testaccio, Rome, Italy, July 9, 1982
           > >     * "You Are What You Is"
           > >     * Excerpts from Uncle Meat, 1970 (included some unused
footage)
           > >     * Pinewood Studios, January-February, 1971 from The True
Story
           > Of
           > > 200 Motels
           > >     * Hotel Room, Berlin, 1968 (from Uncle Meat)
           > >     * MOI Live Footage, Los Angeles, late 1968 by Cal
Schenkel (from
           > > Uncle Meat)
           > >     * Adelaide Tonight, NWS Channel Nine, Australia, 1973
           > >     * The Palladium, NYC, October, 1977 (from Baby Snakes)
           > >     * MOI 8mm Home Movies, 1969 by Motorhead Sherwood (from
Uncle
           > Meat)
           > >     * Royal Festival Hall, October, 1968 (from Uncle Meat)
           > >     * 1967 MOI Recording Session for We're Only In It For The
Money
           > > (from Uncle Meat)
           > >     * 1967 MOI at Garrick Theater (from Uncle Meat)
           > >     * We're Only In It For The Money Album Cover Photo
Session (from
           > > Uncle Meat)
           > >     * Live 1967 MOI Unidentified Footage (Ripping the covers
of the
           > > albums) (from Uncle Meat)
           > >     * Elliott Ingber Interview
           > >     * Metz, France, June 22, 1982
           > >     * Eric Malkin "I Need Your Love"
           > >     * Excerpts from An American Dissident
           > >     * Zappa Testimony before the Maryland State Legislature,
           > February
           > > 14, 1986
           > >     * Early 1986 Maryland TV Interview
           > >
           > > The music:
           > >
           > >     * Video From Hell (unidentified Synclavier music)
           > >     * G-Spot Tornado from Jazz From Hell
           > >     * St. Etienne from Jazz From Hell
           > >     * Stevie's Spanking from You Can't Do That On Stage
Anymore
           > Vol. 1
           > >     * You Are What You Is from You Are What You Is
           > >     * Night School from Jazz From Hell
           > >     * Dog Breath, In The Year Of The Plague from Uncle Meat
           > >     * King Kong from Baby Snakes (The Movie)
           > >     * Mother People from We're Only In It For The Money
(1987)
           > >     * Mr. Green Genes from Uncle Meat
           > >     * King Kong from You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol.
3
           > >     * Bogus Pomp from L.S.O. Vol. II
           > >
           > >
--------------------------------------------------------------------
           > -
           > > 200 Motels, the true story..
           > > =============================
           > >
           > >    True Story of 200 Motels
           > >    A one-hour documentary on the making of Frank Zappa's
bizarre
           > >    1971 comic musical. Vintage private footage from Frank's
personal
           > >    archives plus behind-the-scenes of the actual shooting and
           > >    recording.  With Ringo Starr, Theodore Bikel, Keith Moon
and such
           > >    songs as "Sleeping in a Jar," and "Strictly Genteel." The
inside
           > >    history of the first feature-length film to be shot on
video in 6
           > >    days. 60 mins.






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