Yeah, I had read about that HiB saxophone bit, where Otis instructed 
the sax player on how to produce certain "greasy" sounds or something.
Manoeuvre must have gotten mixed up with that. There are, probably, 
actual small combo, real time playing in the Rats sessions though. 
But I doubt myself that Zappa was absent altogether, or "un-
conducting", in a lot of those...
On the CD's Gumbo Variations opening bit, whom does it sound to you 
gives the instructions, Zappa (with his former, higher pitched voice) 
or Ian Underwood?
--- In, "Andrew Hickey" 
> On 4/24/06, myrtleedop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Philippe Manoeuvre says so in his latest entry for "La discothèque
> > idéale", in Zappa-friendly French mag Rock & Folk (Issue of 
April? May?
> > Forgot to check!!).
> > Cool full page photo of Zappa circa 1970 with a camera in hand.
> > Interesting anecdotes in the Hot Rats piece... but some sound a 
> > strange to me (re. my subject line).
> > I also disagree that Zappa "let all the 16 tracks fully opened" 
for his
> > digital remix of the album. Because some of the "voices" are 
> > killed in there, for the benefit of the new ones. So we won some, 
> > some instead.
> In the MOJO tribute issue, someone (Barry Miles I think, but I'm not
> certain) talks about watching Otis conduct the Mothers in the studio
> while Zappa was in the control room. The track he talks about
> specifically is Holiday In Berlin.
> I can't see anyone 'conducting' Hot Rats, because it's built up
> entirely of overdubs as far as I can tell, but Otis conducting the
> Mothers around that time seems to be a fact.
> --
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