In my personal opinion, a good way of practising full lotus or half
lotus for people who have the potential(does not have significant
physical or mental disabilities) of doing so (some might not even be
able to do half lotus) is to practice say initially 5 minutes, then
10 minutes, then 15 minutes, 20 minutes...and so per session, when
the pain comes, it is where the koan or hua tou comes into play.
This pain is small compare to the pain to be endured when we are
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> I have noticed that difference between half and full lotus
myself. Most of
> the time I sit half just because that position allows me to sit
for a hour
> at a time. I have only recently (within the past 6 months or so)
> to achieve full-lotus and can only go about 20-30 minutes before I
> I need to get some blood flowing. I do notice, though, that full-
> seems to be a much more stable position and allows for breath that
> more natural than sitting in half. Full-lotus requires less minor
> adjustments and alignments during meditation, ie: more stillness.
> It seems to me in the West full-lotus is not emphasized strictly,
due to the
> fact that most people in the US are not generally quite as
flexible as other
> places where Yoga and meditation are more commonly used. Many
> simply don't bend that way, and it's damaging to force oneself
> position. In order for many to achieve full lotus, it takes a few
> cautious stretching in order to be able to not overstrain ones-
self and get
> a messed up ankle or knee.
> Keep stretching your ankles, knees and hips in order to sit longer
> comfortably in full-lotus. However, be very careful about how you
> it. Torn knee cartilage may be a very painful and difficult thing
> overcome =) It's always best to consult a yogi of some sort, and
> yourself patience to achieve that goal.
> From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Of dkotschessa
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:17 AM
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Zen] Full Lotus
> Most of my zazen over the years I have done in half lotus, which
> sufficient. In the beginning I did full lotus before I found it
> not necessary.
> Last night I decided I would try full lotus again. I have to say
> seemed "better" somehow. I just mean it seemed easier, stiller.
> Are there any teachers that emphasize or insist upon full lotus as
> opposed to other positions?
> The first book I read was "Zen Mind, Beginners Mind." The first
> a lot of people read. He prescribes full lotus there, that's why
> started that way.
> I may keep this up, but not when I'm doing super long sessions of
> course. (Or sesshins!)
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