--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Sodaiho-roshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> With palms together,
>    
>   Sitting with anything in mind, especially a "fun factor" would 
not be zazen.
>    

Sure - although some think Koans are allowed somehow.

May I ask you what your reasons where for doing Zazen outside in 
nature?

Thanks,
Eugene




>   Be well.
> 
> Eugene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Thanks for sharing! Would be a great experience, sitting zazen 
in 
> nature, in group.
> 
> The distraction factor when sitting zazen outside is indeed 
> something to account for. Sitting inside would probably be more 
> benificial because of that. I learn from your experience to bring 
> some stuff to keep the insects away, and inspect the spot on  
> insects - it would at least help. Bill is right with his posting 
> that it is easy to be distracted when sitting zazen.
> 
> Seems to me that sitting zazen outside is not very useful for me, 
> except for the fun factor.
> 
> Or, has anyone some real positive experience with sitting in 
nature?
> 
> Eugene
> 
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Sodaiho-roshi <buddhist99@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > With palms together,
> >    
> >   As others have pointed out, zazen in nature was the original 
way 
> of the Buddha. And, others still, the Thai forest monk traditions. 
> >    
> >   I once led a thirty day Ango at my monastery.  Each day we sat 
> for a two hour period outdoors in a meadow tucked in the forest.  
I 
> had built siiting platforms at various spots and we each would 
carry 
> a zafu and blanket on a early morning walk to the site.  There we 
> would sit zazen. 
> >    
> >   The experience had its ups and downs.  The ups were that it 
was 
> clearly a beautiful setting for practice, there was the 
possibility 
> of witnessing much unfolding.  The down side was the same, there 
was 
> a lot of smal life, flies, gnats, etc., that would land on every 
> exposed surface and explore. I found witnessing a fly walk across 
my 
> eyebrow and down into my eyelash interesting. 
> >    
> >   It turns out there are good reasons for sitting as Bill has 
> pointed out: a quite place, facing a wall, moderate light and 
tepid 
> temperature. These are conducive to just sitting.
> >    
> >   Be well.
> > 
> > Eugene <eusvr@> wrote:
> >   Do you have experience with practicing Zen in nature? Like, 
> where do 
> > you go, what do you do, how do people react, what have you 
learned 
> not 
> > to do, ...
> > 
> > Summer is definitely coming up here, which means I like to go 
out 
> more 
> > instead of staying in. Doing zazen in nature seems nice to me. I 
> > haven't done it yet however... It seems a bit strange to me to 
sit 
> > zazen in, say, a park or a forest. I wouldn't feel at ease, I 
> think, 
> > when others pass by. And what about the rule about sitting zazen 
> > before a wall, preferably white? 
> > 
> > Do Zen Masters mention something about this issue?
> > 
> > Eugene
> > 
> > 
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