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                       Hello, Everyone!              Posted 
by:      "jbaby36"         
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      Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:09 pm        (PST)                    Peace 
to you all. I am
new to zazen, And, my feet have only just 
touched the river of Zen. I sit, breathe, and, try to loose myself 
from within. But, the noise of a restless mind, brings me little 
peace. What am I doing wrong? My belly burns from breathing. I feel 
like 5 minutes have passed. But, when I open my eyes, I see only 3 
have. I do not expect much from my first time. But, can it truly be 
THIS hard? Please, someone help me see what am I doing wrong?


Hi Jeff...Well, first off don't close your eyes completely. Just 
close them half way,
not quite a squint, which takes effort, just half lidded. Then find a 
spot on the floor
or wall about 6' away and fix your gaze on it. As to the "noise" in 
your head, just let
it pass without paying attention to it. This takes practice...

Your belly burns because you are building up Ki in it. There are many 
visualizations to
use to handle this, I use some specific to the Ki-Society Aikido 
school, so I'll leave
it up to others to give you some more Zen ones. (Also, mine involve 

                       A white lotus flower to everyone              
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maria818448                             Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:03 
am        (PST)          
         Hello everyone,
My name is Maria Mayka and have been a practicioner of zen for 
years.  The only zen Master Teacher I have known and experienced 
through the years has been Vietnamese Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh. I 
have joined this group mostly to learn, practice and share life 
experiences within the practice with other zen practicioners.  I am 
as much interested about the intelectual and academic side of 
but the practice . So far in all zen groups founded in the net no 
sharing experiences of the practice seemed to be there which is shows 
how little we all practice.
A lotus to you all from

Mayka, thanks for the flower. I love Thich Nhat Hanh's books. He is 
an outstanding
teacher. You could not do much better than him.

I hope you enjoy our little sangha here.

Ki is extending,
John Davis


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