Edgar, Yes, I use lower case 'z' to indicate that 'zen' is nothing special and not specifically associated with anything else (like Buddhism). I use 'Zen' with an upper case 'Z' to stand for Zen Buddhism which is a proper noun and does stand for something very specific and therefore bounded - also of course it is directly associated with Buddhism.
...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bill, > > Yes, I agree completely with your distinction. Interesting though > that you use the capitalization in exactly the opposite way as I tend > to. I'll have to re-evaluate the way I use my capitalization. > Generally I distinguish by using the terms true Zen vs zen sects. > Maybe I use the caps for true Zen because that's where the brightness > lies and you the small z to indicate it's nothing in particular? > > Best, > Edgar > > > > On Sep 11, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Bill Smart wrote: > > > Edgar, > > > > I wholeheartedly agree with your comments about sex and zen, and in > > fact think that applies to lots of other areas. > > > > This is why I differentiate between Zen Buddhism (a religion) and zen > > (what you have referred to as 'True Zen'). > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > Jeni Jeni, > > > > > > One can be enlightened at any moment, in fact there is always > > > enlightenment, its just a matter of realizing it, of admitting it. > > As > > > I indicated in my previous response to you sexual energy is > > certainly > > > chi and sex can certainly intensify one's chi. While orgasms are > > > certainly beneficial on their own, even better is to use the > > sexual > > > chi to purify the entire being by moving it through the energy > > body > > > using techniques such as Tantra teach. > > > > > > I'm glad you have brought up the subject of sex here as many Zen > > > practitioners are rather prudish about sex. That is one major > > > criticism I have of most Zen teaching which originates with the > > whole > > > idea of celibate monks and nuns trying to ignore a natural part of > > > their being. Most Zen sects consider sex a distraction at best, > > and > > > for many it borders on the sinful. True Zen makes no such > > judgments > > > however and accepts sex as part of life just like anything else, > > and > > > uses it like everything else on the path to enlightenment. > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2008, at 7:13 AM, Jeni Jeni wrote: > > > > > > > Pole dancing is very popular and I think you can really feel > > your > > > > Chi when you are grinding against a pole. The exercise is > > intense. > > > > Does orgasm count as a moment of enlightenment? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/