Hi Margie,

Welcome to the forum. My name is Mike and like you I had a spontaneous break 
thru', but unlike you I was fortunate to pick up a book literally minutes after 
my experience (a book on kundalini as it happens). Eventually I was led to Zen 
and so able to put words (as such) to my experience. I have found that sitting 
has helped deepen that initial experience, although not in the 'whizz, bang, 
wallop' way that the initial experience occured. It's helped by allowing the 
daily internal chatter to dissapate so that that window of body and mind just 
'dropping away' (Dogen)opens a little longer. Mike.

----- Original Message ----
From: roloro1557 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 30 September, 2008 9:56:07
Subject: [Zen] Re: What's after Satori

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..> wrote:
> Margie,
> Very precise and to the point description. More evidence that sitting 
> in a monastery doing zazen for years is often just a waste of time.
> Edgar

Hi Edgar-

I think zazen and other forms of meditation are tools that can work
well for some people, not so well for others. I also agree with Osho
that "There is no meditation when everything is meditation." 

I know someone who sold everything he owned, went to a monastery in
Japan, and basically did zazen for three years. He never reached
Satori. He came back very bitter and angry.

I say that to say I think it all depends on the person. Everyone's

Margie (roloro1557)



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