Well, in our school, this transmission is the transmission of Buddha 
Heart.  An energy form that is pure clearing up the remains of the 
blockage of the recipient.    

Edgar Owen wrote:
>
> No 'transmission' of Zen is possible. You can't transmit direct 
> experience of reality from one person to another. It's just a matter 
> of opening one's own eyes. A teacher or whatever may help trigger such 
> an awakening, but that is not 'transmission'.
>
>
> As I've said before the only thing that is transmitted in the Zen 
> sects is the leadership over temples, eg. one patriarch to another, 
> but that is transmission of a worldly political authority, not Zen itself.
>
> Edgar
>
>
>
> On Oct 3, 2008, at 11:18 AM, jmcgeach48 wrote:
>
>> Great explanation Bill. I always understood zen to be the following.
>>
>> A special transmission outside the scriptures; 
>> No dependence upon words and letters; 
>> Direct pointing to the human mind; 
>> Seeing into one's own nature and attaining Buddhahood.
>>
>> These 4 lines are what attracted me to zen. It is also why it is
>> plausible to be a Christian, Jew, etc and still practise zen. That is
>> my understanding at least. 
>>
>> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com 
>> <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Right on, Brother Bill. Anything written down, spoken about are just 
>> > forms to describe a direct "connection" to the universal life force and 
>> > wisdom.
>> > 
>> > As Edgar stated numerous times, "nothing else matters...".... When we 
>> > let go of our mind, we let go of our frame of reference. No more 
>> > capable of judgment, comparison, categorization. No more suffering....
>> > 
>> > To lock in this synchronization, a chi based practice helps..
>> > 
>> > _/\_
>> > 
>> > 
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Chris,
>> > >
>> > > In a recent post you wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >I do disagree with Bill's point that Zen has always
>> > > >stood alone and that other beliefs have tried to
>> > > >incorporate it, I believe it is the opposite, Zen
>> > > >has been isolated from Zen Buddhism and incorporated
>> > > >into other people's beliefs. Or something like that.
>> > >
>> > > This is an important point to me so I'd like to try to clarify it.
>> > >
>> > > If zen is indeed a 'direct experience of reality', then the
>> capability for
>> > > that experience that has existed 'forever', or at least as long as 
>> > > sentient
>> > > (self-aware) beings have existed. This experience certainly pre-dates
>> > > Siddhartha Gautama Buddha. That is why I say 'zen' pre-dates Buddhism,
>> > > Hinduism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc...
>> > >
>> > > I don't believe that 'other beliefs' (religions) have tried to
>> INCORPORATE
>> > > it (zen)'; I believe a direct experience of reality (zen) is the
>> BASIS for
>> > > all these other beliefs, and that the differences we see today are
>> due to
>> > > different culturally-based terms used to describe this experience,
>> and 
>> > > lots
>> > > and lots of extraneous add-ons.
>> > >
>> > > For example when I read the Bible I interpret accounts of directly
>> > > communicating with God (like Moses) or with the Archangel Gabriel
>> (like
>> > > Mohammed), or the experiences Jesus had after fasting for 40 days
>> in the
>> > > wilderness as equivalent to the Japanese Zen Buddhist term 'satori'. I
>> > > believe these are accounts of people directly experiencing reality, 
>> > > and then
>> > > trying to describe it in the best way they could. When Jesus says,
>> 'I am
>> > > the Way, the Truth and the Light; and no one can come to the
>> Father but by
>> > > me', to me he is saying 'I am not 'me' any longer. I am no longer
>> just a
>> > > man, I'm the way, the truth, the light. I am no longer under the 
>> > > delusion I
>> > > have a self that is different and separate from other beings and other
>> > > things. I am no longer under the delusion of duality. 'I' cease to
>> exist.
>> > > There is Only THIS. 'I' am my experience, nothing more and nothing
>> less.
>> > > And having this experience (direct experience of reality - zen) as
>> I have,
>> > > is the only way for you to 'come to the Father' (come home, return
>> to the
>> > > origin, realize your Buddha Nature, become enlightened).
>> > >
>> > > This is what I believe because I do believe most of the major 
>> > > religions were
>> > > started with good intent, and since I don't believe in actual deities 
>> > > I can
>> > > only assume the impetus for all of these is from the same source: 
>> > > 'God', or
>> > > a direct experience of reality - or what I choose to call zen.
>> > >
>> > > All of this is just a comforting thought for me. It's not really
>> important
>> > > in the long run. It's just a way I've found to rationalize other
>> beliefs
>> > > without completely negating them.
>> > >
>> > > ...Bill!
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>  

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