Edgar, Yes, it does sound good on e-paper, but what I see every day does not have much in common with the cited article - although I do see some fundamental areas that are recognizable. They do still chant in ancient Pali. Most monks I've talked to don't know what it is they are chanting - they know generally what the theme of the chant is (probably passages from some sutra) but they don't know much detail, certainly not word-for-word. This would not be strange for Zen Buddhists, but Theravada stresses analytical analysis for which I'd think you'd need to know the meaning of what you're chanting. The whole analytical analysis thing is one of the real turn-offs for me. Monks in Thailand eat meat, and most chain-smoke cigarettes. They do get up very early (4A) and do go out into the community in the morning to beg for food (Although, they don't do much begging - they just walk down the street in a big line and people line up to put rice and other food items in their begging bowls. This is called 'sigh baht'. In a return they tell them to not think bad thoughts and not say bad things about other people. They eat their one and only meal before noon. They shave their heads and eyebrows. When you give them money you have to put it in an envelope and lay it on the ground in front of them. They can have money of their own and I see them in stores all the time buying sweets, Cokes and cigarettes.
I could go on and on about them, but I won't. ...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edgar Owen Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:24 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: -----<---@ Bill and Anthony, Sounds good on paper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theravada Edgar On Oct 7, 2008, at 6:59 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anthony, I don't reconcile with Theravada. I interact with the local wats (temples) and the monks all the time. It's just another religious rip-off as far as I'm concerned. I've yet to meet any senior monks or temple heads that even seemed like good people, much less good representatives of Buddhism. Have you had any experiences with Theravada? ...Bill! From:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Wu Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:43 AM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: -----<---@ Bill, I did not realize you are in Thailand! How do you reconcile with Theravada there? Regards, Anthony __________ NOD32 3500 (20081007) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/