Dear Jody; I like the kind of questions you're making because they push me to concentrate better in the practice. Thank you for this.
In response to this last post: You say that what you're trying to understand is the goals we set to function in the world. If you set a goal to function in the world you're already proyecting and precipitating the future. You're mind is not anchored in the present moment. You don't need any goal to function in the world. You only need to be fully present in your being in the present moment. Once you manage that the same present moment takes care of everything else. You need to understand and experience by yourself first; that the present moment contains the past and the future. And that this is not philosophy or an idea. This is a very real fact. Whatever you think, feel, do, acting... in the present moment is a consequence of the past. At the same time all this will determine your future thinking, feeling, doing acting. So, as you can see the present moment contains everything. And this is why is so important to know the way of how to stop the buzzy busy box of the mind. So that we prevent more dust being accumulated leading us to so much suffering and confussion. Blinding us to see the Pure Mind in us. Separating us from the rest of life entities as it makes us prisioners in our own self. You say that the MOTIVATION is important. Again by focusing in the present moment, any motivation drops by itself. One does no need motivation but being dilegent in the practice I'm a little embarrased to tell you this one because the last thing I am is being diligent in the practice. Though I never loose track completely because I'm like the prodigal child returning back again and again to Daddy/Mammi Zen. I suppose I'm a little addicted to the good care of Daddy/Mammi Zen after all. In response to your main question below: "the person pursues the subject they are studying with curiousity and they > focus on what they are doing today then that is the objective but if they > are driven to crave the PhD in the future without thinking of the path to > get there then that is where the problem is?" The way I see this here is that when one does something for the sake of doing it, then there is no suffering. If one does something with expectations as a result then there will be suffering. In zen we don't think of the path because we don't have a path. We follow the continuos thread of the present moment and that is what mark our path. Let's listening to what other members have to say about your questions. A Scottish Automm Leaf to you Mayka --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Bill, Mayka and all, > Thank you for your answers. I do understand what you mean but what I am > trying to understand is the goals we set to function in the world. > > I think I understand that is the MOTIVATION that is important. If a person > has a driving desire to be a Phd in a subject that interests them, then if > the person pursues the subject they are studying with curiousity and they > focus on what they are doing today then that is the objective but if they > are driven to crave the PhD in the future without thinking of the path to > get there then that is where the problem is? > > JODY > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/