Hi Edgar;

Good to hear from you again.

If we do things automatically without being focused on them, it only 
means that we're not living the present moment.  Simple as that. 


--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bill,
> Sometimes it's great just to do things automatically without being  
> focused on them, that allows one to be mindful of more relevant 
> Edgar
> On Nov 2, 2008, at 4:07 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Jody,
> >
> > You wrote:
> > >I think I understand that is the MOTIVATION that is important. 
> > a person
> > >has a driving desire to be a Phd in a subject that interests 
> > then if
> > >the person pursues the subject they are studying with 
> > and they
> > >focus on what they are doing today then that is the objective 
> > if they
> > >are driven to crave the PhD in the future without thinking of 
> > path to
> > >get there then that is where the problem is?
> >
> > I think your thoughts above are close, but obtaining a PhD is a  
> > goal. LEARNING MORE ABOUT [whatever] is not a goal, it is an  
> > activity. Now you could pursue the learning aspect by many 
> > one of which would be enrolling in college and taking courses 
> > might eventually lead to a PhD - BUT, the PhD is only incidental 
> > the activity. It is not the activity itself.
> >
> > Also, what I think Buddha and Jesus both said were more along 
> > lines of living in the present. Using the example above, if you 
> > going to class every day and studying every night - then you 
> > pour yourself TOTALLY into each activity you are doing IN THE  
> > PRESENT. You should wake up welcoming the new day, do your 
> > exercises as best you can, take your shower and dry off with all  
> > your awareness, fix and eat your breakfast with reverence and  
> > thanks, drive to class focusing all your attention on the drive,  
> > attend class while focusing all your attention on the teacher's  
> > instructions, etc... You should NOT wake up and rush through 
> > morning resenting the interruption of your sleep, shower quickly  
> > and eat your breakfast in a rush while trying to catch the first 
> > mins of CNN, drive to class while thinking about your upcoming 
> > or the cute girl/guy who sits next to you in class, fidget 
> > your class hoping it will end quickly so you and the cute 
> > sitting next to you could go to the beach or park.
> >
> > This is what I mean by living in the present, not dwelling on 
> > past or dreaming about the future.
> >
> > ...Bill!
> >
> >
> >


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