Hi Al,

I think you're getting your definition of theory wrong. Or are you trying to 
suggest that the 'theory' of aromatherapy is the same as the Theory of 
Relativity? You mention the Law (or theory) of gravity. But this only works on 
a large scale. When you get down to the quantum level gravity breaks down 
(remember Einstein's,  "God doesn't play dice.." quote?). Although science 
can't (yet) explain this "under all possible scenarios", it isn't 'science' to 
fill the gap with a 'therefore there must be a Creator' or 'Evolution is a 
theory on par with changing water into wine' argument. That is sloppy thinking 
at best and is certainly not scientific.


From: zatoichi63 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 7 November, 2008 15:52:21
Subject: Re: [Zen] Is SATORI just a fairy tale?

mike brown > Due to the discovery of fosilized remains in various 
strata, scientists have ample evidence that species have evolved over 
millions of years. Of course there will be gaps (missing links) where 
species have not been discovered yet, but to say that this is a 
question of faith (on par with faith in a creator) makes as much 
sense as voting for Sarah Palin. 

That is faith. Science is facts only, not gaps. A Scientific Theorem 
is provable under all possible scenarios. The Law of Gravity comes to 
mind. Evolution is not provable. It is not a scientific law, just a 
theory, as valid as walking on water. 

As far as evolution being proven by fossils, point out one example. 
You have lots of fossils of different creatures, but even with the 
200 million year old turtles, you do not have evidence of evolution. 
You have evidence of turtles that existed 200 million years ago, and 
they died and became extinct. Then you have evidence of other 
turtles. There is no evidence of evolution, which would be Turtle A, 
then the evolved Turtle A. The fossil records show Turtle A, then 
Turtle B, etc. There is no fossil of a Snapping Turtle which evolved 
into a better Snapping Turtle. 



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