In my next life as an ant, I will organize a struggle against the oppressing 
ant class, to set up a proletarian dictatorship, so that both the princess and 
the worker will be saved.

--- On Mon, 22/12/08, mike brown <> wrote:

From: mike brown <>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Nature?
Date: Monday, 22 December, 2008, 1:12 PM

They are indeed sentient. If you saw the movie Antz then you'd see that the 
princess ant fell in love with a worker-ant (a forbidden love), therefore 
proving a high degree of, not only self consciousness, but class consciousness.


--- On Mon, 22/12/08, Karin Machado <tortillera77@> wrote:

From: Karin Machado <tortillera77@>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Nature?
To: zen_fo...@yahoogrou
Date: Monday, 22 December, 2008, 2:25 PM

Edgar Owen All living organisms have intelligence necessary to survive within 
their particular environments. Otherwise they would have become extinct.>

Pure genetic programming which is the mindless robotic survival instinct of 
insects does NOT translate to sentient being. 

Insects are not self-aware, therefore they are not sentient. 


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