Karma is the best thing to ensure moral values. Better than God, Allah or 
Buddha. As soon as they hear about moral values, many will say we are just 
dogmatic. They are right in many cases. We need something to get around 

--- On Mon, 12/1/09, fitness4u2163 <fitness1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: fitness4u2163 <fitness1...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Zen] Re: The Reason For God
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 12 January, 2009, 10:45 PM

Anthony Wu I can agree with all you say except for your statement that 
nothing needs to be justified. Then, kiling, lying, womanizing, 
drinking... do not need to be justified. They are 'just this'.

I think that is "New Age Zen" where everything is OK. I recall reading 
an old zen book that stated that there were some things that were not 
taught, such as moral values because the culture of Japan was such 
that these things were presumed and expected. 


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