>From reading your posting attached below I think you are talking about
>'accountability', not 'justification. thefreedictionary.com defines 'justify'
>as "To demonstrate or prove to be just, right, or valid". It defines
>'accountability as: "Liable to being called to account; answerable".
The concept of 'karma' is the Buddhist vehicle for accountability. The concept
of 'cause-and-effect' is the Newtonian equivalent.
I don't 'deny' karma. I see it to be 'maya', and like most other intellectual
concepts, including 'cause-and-effect', to be illusory. If you believe in
karma, then it certainly can have an effect on you. You could harbor guilt for
doing something you think is 'wrong', and that certainly could affect your
But then any illusion can have an effect on you if you believe it. If you
believe in God and sin and Heaven and Hell then you might believe if you do
something 'wrong' you might go to Hell when you die. You might also believe if
you really, really regret doing whatever you did, and you ask God for
forgiveness, you will be forgiven, and then still be eligible for Heaven. Does
this mean God and sin and Heaven and Hell are not illusory?
I believe they are, and so is karma.
To finish off replying to your post, I don't believe there is a 'rule of this
There's Just THIS!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: The Reason For God
My answer is that justification is not by God, Allah, Brahman, Bill or Anthony.
It is by karma. If I kill somebody, I create karma that will come back to me
someday to result in a very bad situation where I will suffer a lot. In other
words, actions do not need to be justified to anybody, but they will affect the
doer. Justification may not be a right word, but you know what I mean. I know
you don't believe in karma. Tell me what is the rule of this universe? What
will happen to me if I steal something? Nothing? If you deny karma, but accept
Newton's laws, you are saying that the material world has a very precise rule,
but spiritually everything is haphazard.
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