How can you cry, 'ouch' to an illusion. So it is not. Before you reach 
nirvana(to which I hope you are just around the corner), or whatever you call 
it, you are still in samsara. A lot of things are real there, including 
suffering. Once you reach the goal, they are all illusions.

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Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: The Reason For God
Date: Wednesday, 14 January, 2009, 9:59 AM


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I am not reading any books at this moment. I am reading your posts. 

How do you respond to the pain, after you prick your thigh with a needle? I 
have trouble believing you consider it illusion.



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