Anthony,

You'll have to re-read some of my previous posts.  In them I clearly stated 
that 'pain' (actually the sense of touch) is NOT AN ILLUSION.

...Bill!

From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Wu
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:28 PM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: The Reason For God

Bill,
 
How can you cry, 'ouch' to an illusion. So it is not. Before you reach 
nirvana(to which I hope you are just around the corner), or whatever you call 
it, you are still in samsara. A lot of things are real there, including 
suffering. Once you reach the goal, they are all illusions.
 
Anthony



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