Anthony,

For you maybe but not for me... You need to get rid of your attachments to life 
and to death both! If you clearly realize the true nature of your being that 
will happen automatically.

Edgar



On Aug 30, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:

> Edgar,
>  
> Your highlighted remark makes things worse. It is no cure for the fear of 
> death. There must be a 'cure', but not the words.
>  
> Anthony
> 
> --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Edgar Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> From: Edgar Owen <edgaro...@att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Death
> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 6:55 PM
> 
>  
> DP,
> 
> Why on earth would anyone be worried about death? After all you won't be 
> around or conscious to experience it! Remember you were dead before you were 
> born. Do you worry about not being alive before you were born? Of course not. 
> Then why worry about being dead after you're dead? Same thing exactly. You'll 
> be in exactly the same state, or rather no state at all. Death is entirely an 
> illusion and an illusory fear.
> 
> And even if you are still worried about death the best answer to that is 
> simply to immerse yourself completely in the present moment and enjoy it and 
> forget death. After all death doesn't exist. That is your death will never 
> exist for you. All that will ever exist for you is life!
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:11 PM, DP wrote:
> 
>>  
>> 
>> I will check them out. I appreciate your words. I guess I was frustrated 
>> with other zen groups, where I only received vague platitudes and rhetorical 
>> questions along the lines of "why be afraid of death?" Which I understand 
>> but have a problem implementing.
>> 
>> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Rose P <things_r...@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi DP
>> > Â 
>> > I've read your posts and the replies you've gotten with interest. I don't 
>> > have much information, zen wise, to offer with regards death and the fear 
>> > of it, although I do *get* where you're coming from. Some of the others 
>> > will hopefully post on this subject perhaps. What I have found extremely 
>> > useful is the site www.dharmaseed.org. I try to listen to at least one 
>> > talk a day. In terms of repetitive, troublesome thoughts, there are some 
>> > fairly good talks given by a teacher called Gloria Ambrosia. I've only 
>> > been using the site for a month or so, so I'm sure there's a wealth of 
>> > other stuff on there that could be checked out, and might be of some use.
>> > Â 
>> > Take care, 
>> > Â 
>> > Rose
>> > Â 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > --- On Sun, 8/29/10, DP <dave.dplat...@...> wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > From: DP <dave.dplat...@...>
>> > Subject: [Zen] Death
>> > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
>> > Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 2:59 PM
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Â  
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ARe there any good meditations I can do which helps me deal with my fear 
>> > of death? I just finished Thich Nhat Hanh's No Death No Fear, and I liked 
>> > it, but I feel such a hard time getting around the idea of continuance - 
>> > it's too much for my materialist mind. So maybe I need a different tack...
>> > 
>> > How do I confront the reality of death with the aim towards lessening my 
>> > fear of this?
>> >
>> 
> 
> 
> 

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