I can't speak for others of course, but you have misunderstood me I'm afraid.

Artie


--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Jody W. Ianuzzi" <j...@...> wrote:
>
> Wow, this is throwing the baby out with the bath water!  What a
> stereotypical summary of western zen practice.  So what are we westerners to
> do?  I guess we should just give up.........
> 
> I don't practice zen this way and I live in America.  I don't spend any
> money and I don't believe every 'instant enlightenment' fad I hear either.
> 




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