ED,

Determining what is illusion is not a simple matter that can be put in just a 
few words. Here's my article on the nature of mind, reality and illusion.

http://edgarlowen.info/mind.shtml

Edgar



On Oct 4, 2010, at 11:16 AM, ED wrote:

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> [EO]  Nonsense. Zen is not anti anything except perhaps illusion. 
> 
> Edgar,
> 
> I currently favor your understanding (subject to further thought and 
> discussion.)
> 
> And, how does one determine when one is under an illusion/delusion and when 
> not?
> 
> --ED
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>  
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgaro...@...> wrote:
> >
> 
> Nonsense. Zen is not anti anything except perhaps illusion. 
> 
> 
> Intelligence is absolutely necessary to recognize illusion so that it can be 
> transcended. Only then can Zen mind be realized.
> 
> Zen is not the absence of intelligence or anything else. It is the 
> realization of everything for what it is including the use of the 
> intellectual mind to solve real problems. The notion that Zen is only sitting 
> doing nothing and not functioning in the world in one's daily life is a 
> dangerous illusion. True Zen is 24/7 no matter what one is doing....
> 
> Edgar
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> 
> 
> [DP] "I should point out that at their most extreme the "internet atheists" 
> do not spare Buddhism, claiming it is, of all things, anti-intellectual."
> 
> Buddhism is not anti-intellectual.  Zen is.
> 
> …Bill!
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