What do you think of the following anti-intellectual zen remark:
When you cross a bridge, the water underneath stops, but the bridge flows.
Is it complete nonsense? Or it has some other meaning?

--- On Mon, 4/10/10, Edgar Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote:

From: Edgar Owen <edgaro...@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Bible, God, etc.
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 4 October, 2010, 11:35 PM



Determining what is illusion is not a simple matter that can be put in just a 
few words. Here's my article on the nature of mind, reality and illusion.



On Oct 4, 2010, at 11:16 AM, ED wrote:



[EO]  Nonsense. Zen is not anti anything except perhaps illusion. 
I currently favor your understanding (subject to further thought and 
And, how does one determine when one is under an illusion/delusion and when not?


--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgaro...@...> wrote:

Nonsense. Zen is not anti anything except perhaps illusion.  

Intelligence is absolutely necessary to recognize illusion so that it can be 
transcended. Only then can Zen mind be realized.

Zen is not the absence of intelligence or anything else. It is the realization 
of everything for what it is including the use of the intellectual mind to 
solve real problems. The notion that Zen is only sitting doing nothing and not 
functioning in the world in one's daily life is a dangerous illusion. True Zen 
is 24/7 no matter what one is doing....


[DP] "I should point out that at their most extreme the "internet atheists" do 
not spare Buddhism, claiming it is, of all things, anti-intellectual."
Buddhism is not anti-intellectual.  Zen is.

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