Sorry to pick on you JMJM, but this one paragraph below illustrates the point 
I'm making about the efficacy of applying the scientific method to zen over the 
>Pure consciousness is the soul after death. Originally, human bodies were 
>luminous. However, they are covered by our consciousness, just
like clouds covering the sunlight. After death, we will end up in an unknown 
space according to our consciousness. When we go beyond our
sub-consciousness, we enter the realm of the Eighth Consciousness (Alaya 
Consciousness), and then we witness the light of our self-
nature. This light is not outside of us. It is inside. It's the light of life 
and wisdom, and the light is full of supernatural
powers. Its powers are tens of times more powerful than that of the human brain 
or any power we know of. Such powers are beyond
To me that kinda begs the question: will I be able to walk thru walls like a 
ninja if I really apply myself? : )


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