Bill posted: "When one realizes his original nature, discipline,
calmness and wisdom need not be instituted."

Tibetan Vajrayana and zen appear to have similar positions on this
issue.

--ED



--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, <billsm...@...> wrote:
>
> Anthony,

> All the questions you have asked about having limits or rules to go by
are
answered by one sentence below:

> "When one realizes his original nature, discipline, calmness and
wisdom need not
be instituted."

> And there are no need for rules, multi-fold paths, vows, dogma,
rituals or
attachment to the concept of karma.

> Entiende? Kao Jai?

> ...Bill!



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