Anthony, Thai’s do an unusual thing with names. Their names are basically the same as Western names: given name – family name. But when they list them alphabetically, like in a phone book, they alphabetize by the first (given) name. That presents as little problem for computer programs…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Wu Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:23 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas ED/Lluis, I know nothing about Finnish, but I heard it is related to Hungarian, both have something to do with Jenghis Khan or Atila's migration to the west. I also heard the Hungarians put their given names after the familay names. For example, it will be Smart Bill (sounds better), instead of Bill Smart. Is that right? Anthony --- On Sun, 14/11/10, ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> wrote: From: ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, 14 November, 2010, 2:56 AM "Finnish is the eponymous member of the Finno-Ugric language family and is typologically between fusional and agglutinative languages. It modifies and inflects the forms of nouns, adjectives, pronouns, numerals and verbs, depending on their roles in the sentence. Finnish is a member of the Baltic-Finnic subgroup of the Finno-Ugric group of languages which in turn is a member of the Uralic family of languages. The Baltic-Finnic subgroup also includes Estonian and other minority languages spoken around the Baltic Sea. The Finns are more genetically similar to their Indo-European speaking neighbors than to the speakers of the geographically close Finno-Ugric language, Sami. It has been argued that a native Finnic-speaking population therefore absorbed northward migrating Indo-European speakers who adopted the Finnic language, giving rise to the modern Finns." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Lluís Mendieta <lme...@...> wrote: > Hi, Bill I beg to differ in two non zen questions -Hungry? has the subject implicit. You do not place it, but it is implied. The werb in spanish or catalan would be also implicit, so, I suppose same in english. -finnish is a westerner language. And they have a lot of words to design the relationship within family. With best wishes Lluís Anthony, I know Thai's drop subject and sometimes even object all the time, but I thought it was just because they, like Westerners, are lazy. For example, I could ask you: `Are you hungry?', or I could just ask by saying: `Hungry?' (with a rising tone). That's just laziness, or being casual in your speech. I do think language does reveal the different values of culture. For example in Thai there are only 3 tenses: past, present and future; whereas there are many, many adjectives and pronouns that are used to specifically identify the speaker's relationship with the one addressed. In English there are many (27?) verb tenses and very few special pronouns. This I think shows that Westerner's value time more than Asians; whereas Asians put more importance on personal relationships than time. ...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5618 (20101114) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5618 (20101114) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5618 (20101114) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/