Bill,

Thank you . I leaned some more Thai.

Anthony

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From: billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org>
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas
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      Anthony,



Thai’s do an unusual thing with names.  Their names are basically the same as 
Western names: given name – family name.  But when they list them 
alphabetically, like in a phone book, they alphabetize by the first (given) 
name.   That presents as  little problem for computer programs…Bill!



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ED/Lluis,

 

I know nothing about Finnish, but I heard it is related to Hungarian, both have 
something to do with Jenghis Khan or Atila's migration to the west. I also 
heard the Hungarians put their given names after the familay names. For 
example, it will be Smart Bill (sounds better), instead of Bill Smart. Is that 
right?

 

Anthony



--- On Sun, 14/11/10, ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> wrote:



From: ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com>

Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com

Date: Sunday, 14 November, 2010, 2:56 AM

  

 

"Finnish is the eponymous member of the Finno-Ugric language family and is 
typologically between fusional and agglutinative languages. It modifies and 
inflects the forms of nouns, adjectives, pronouns, numerals and verbs, 
depending on their roles in the sentence.

Finnish is a member of the Baltic-Finnic subgroup of the Finno-Ugric group of 
languages which in turn is a member of the Uralic family of languages. The 
Baltic-Finnic subgroup also includes Estonian and other minority languages 
spoken around the Baltic Sea.

The Finns are more genetically similar to their Indo-European speaking 
neighbors than to the speakers of the geographically close Finno-Ugric 
language, Sami. It has been argued that a native Finnic-speaking population 
therefore absorbed northward migrating Indo-European speakers who adopted the 
Finnic language, giving rise to the modern Finns."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_language

 

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Lluís Mendieta <lme...@...> wrote:

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Hi, Bill

 

I beg to differ in two non zen questions

-Hungry? has the subject implicit. You do not place it, but it is implied.

 The werb in spanish or catalan would be also implicit, so, I suppose same in 
english.

 

-finnish is a westerner language. And they have a lot of words to design the 
relationship within family.

 

With best wishes

 

Lluís

 



Anthony,



I know Thai's drop subject and sometimes even object all the time, but I

thought it was just because they, like Westerners, are lazy.



For example, I could ask you: `Are you hungry?', or I could just ask by

saying: `Hungry?' (with a rising tone). That's just laziness, or being

casual in your speech.



I do think language does reveal the different values of culture. For

example in Thai there are only 3 tenses: past, present and future; whereas

there are many, many adjectives and pronouns that are used to specifically

identify the speaker's relationship with the one addressed. In English

there are many (27?) verb tenses and very few special pronouns. This I

think shows that Westerner's value time more than Asians; whereas Asians put

more importance on personal relationships than time.



...Bill!



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