Ed, I received zen training at ZCLA beginning right after its opening in 1967. My first teacher there was Koryu Roshi, a lay Rinzai Zen Master. His Dharma successor was Maezumi Roshi. I began my koan study under Koryu Roshi and continued it under Maezumi Roshi when Koryu Roshi returned to Japan because of his age and health. I believe he was over 80 at that time. He was the Dharma successor of a Japanese Zen Master named Joko Roshi (not to be confused with Charlotte Joko Beck). He was also a Japanese lay teacher in the Rinzai line and did not ordain his successors. Koyru Roshi did not offer ordination either. He definitely stressed lay practice.
The total period of which I was directly associated with ZCLA was about 10 years, but about half was with Koryu Roshi and half with Maezumi Roshi - not 10 years with Maezumi. The only two Dharma successors I really knew well were Tetsugen (Bernie as I called him) who I still keep in touch with, and Gempo (who we all called Gempo). I am less familiar with Joko since by the time she was studying with Maezumi I had moved to Oregon and only attended sesshins 2 or 3 times a year. During that period I did keep in very close contact with Maezumi and in fact hosted him in my home in Oregon during a visit he made there to attend a function at the University of Oregon. While I was studying under Maezumi he did not display any idiosyncrasies that I felt detracted from my training. I certainly know what you are referring to, but none of his personal issues ever affected me - to my knowledge. As you probably know Tetsugen and Gempo turned out very differently. Tetusgen has given up his title of roshi and teaches now as a lay teacher. Gempo has retained his title of roshi, but has developed his own training program (Big Mind) which include Western psychological techniques. Both of them, however, certainly did not turn out to be fundamentalist Zen Buddhist teachers. Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ED Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:14 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] Maezumi Roshi and Dharma heirs Bill, You said you had studied with Maezumi Roshi for ten years. In view of the roshi's idiosycracies, in your experience, did his Dharma successors (and in particular Loori and Merzel) turn out to be kosher/halal teachers? Thanks, --ED Maezumi-roshi gave Dharma transmission to the following individuals: Tetsugen Bernard Glassman Dennis Genpo Merzel Charlotte Joko Beck Jan Chozen Bays John Daido Loori Gerry Shishin Wick John Tesshin Sanderson Alfred Jitsudo Ancheta Charles Tenshin Fletcher Susan Myoyu Andersen Nicolee Jikyo McMahon William Nyogen Yeo __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5622 (20101115) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5623 (20101116) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/