Our society, being what it is, stress, excitement and agitation are the
usual state of the mind.


--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane <ch...@...> wrote:
>
> I think calmness is the natural state of the mind, and sitting allows
that
> to be seen.
>
> The mind becomes calm when people stop ruffling it up, not when people
calm
> it.

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