Chris,

I agree with you about the problem of the religionisation of science (I could 
definitely do without the 'God-helmet' bit..), but aren't we throwing out the 
baby with the bathwater by rejecting the physiology of how the brain functions 
preceding/during and post 'spiritual/enlightenment' experiences? 


Mike




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From: ChrisAustinLane <ch...@austin-lane.net>
To: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com" <Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, 6 December, 2010 1:23:35
Subject: Re: [Zen] Enlightenment, Self, and the Brain

  
It is not even particularly good science. I think it may be a good example of 
what Mayka and Bill were talking about the religionizatipn of science. 


Thanks, 
Chris Austin-Lane
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On Dec 4, 2010, at 13:08, Anthony Wu <wu...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:


ED,
>
>I listened 10 minutes. Up to that point, it has been very materialistic, and 
>as 
>Mike say, left out the 'soul'. It is very scientific, and not for one with a 
>view of anti-science. We have a long way to go to complete the journey of 
>science. Or will it be 'completed' at all?
>
>Anthony
>
>--- On Sat, 4/12/10, mike brown <uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>From: mike brown <uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk>
>>Subject: Re: [Zen] Enlightenment, Self, and the Brain
>>To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
>>Date: Saturday, 4 December, 2010, 12:16 PM
>>
>>
>>  
>>ED,
>>
>>Very interesting video on many different levels - the penny dropped a number 
>>of 
>>times re my own thoughts and experiences. I was surprised he left out the 
>>'long 
>>dark night of the soul' in his presentation tho. 
>>
>>
>>Thanks, 
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________
From: ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com>
>>To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Sat, 4 December, 2010 0:00:46
>>Subject: [Zen] Enlightenment, Self, and the Brain
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>>Recommendation: 
>>Listen to five minutes of the 100 minute video below and then make your own 
>>choices.  
>>
>>--ED
>>
>>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5474604744218568426#
>>Enlightenment, Self, and the Brain. How the brain changes with final 
liberation
>>1:39:08 - 2 years ago 
>>Neurotheology 3 - What happens in the brain when a person attains 
>>enlightenment? 
>>This talk offers an hypothesis. Using concepts in neurotheology developed by 
>>Michael A. Persinger (inventor of the God Helmet), Todd Murphy (inventor of 
>>the 
>>8 Coil Shakti neural stimulation system) explores the brain's role in 
>>enlightenemnt as understood in Buddhism. The talk also looks at the self (or 
>>sense of self), and how it's place as a brain function allows it to be 
>>flexible 
>>enough to change as a person becomes enlightened. It examines a few case 
>>histories, including those of Ramana Maharishi, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, The 
>>Buddha, and some others.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>



      

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