The differences are probably just semantical.

As a term 'mindfulness' to me doesn't necessarily imply 'no-self' (no dualism).

The term 'zen' to me does.

...and the practice of both mindfulness and zen (as defined above) existed long 
before Hinayana Buddhism or any kind of Buddhism.

...Bill!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" <seacrofter...@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Bill,
> 
> You mean 'practice mindfulness'?
> 
> After all, practicing mindfulness was underscored in Theravadin Buddhism
> (much before Chan and Zen.)
> 
> --ED
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > Mel,
> >
> > I like to practice zen while washing my dishes or taking out the
> garabage, ...
> > ...Bill!
>




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