In domestic arts (washing dishes/taking out the garbage) shikantaza is my 

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "gunnar19632000" <gunnar19632...@...> wrote:
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote:
> > Hello Mel,
> Hello ED
> > In the martial arts (and in sports), which type of meditation is more
> > common
> > 
> > (1)  Awareness meditation (vipassana or shikantaza or something else)
> My understanding of 'shikantaza' is just plain zazen. I just sit on a chair, 
> keep spine straight, eyes half-closed, and breath normally...and let the 
> 'clouds' of thought just pass by. Just breath, nothing else
> I don't know the other term
> Everything empty. In a bar-room I was in, the drunken fellow moved and I 
> moved with him. We ended up on the ground and I ended up on top. He was 
> shouting and abusing..doing a lot of talking. But, I couldn't really hear, or 
> understand. But, I could hear noise and see movement. Move in harmony with 
> opponent, not against him the way Sumo bouts begin. Open eyes, open ears. I 
> survived. Pride wasn't important. Just breath
> > (2) Concentration meditation (samatha or somethhing else) ?
> For my own personal purposes, I don't concentrate on anything...unless you 
> call breathing as concentration on breathing itself...which I think 
> complicates things more than needed to be 
> For my own purposes, I don't really make use of the old and ancient terms. 
> Modern English seems far easier for me, but that's just me
> in peace
> Mel


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