Bill You're right as usual. Dogen didn't mention anything aboout commandments, salvation or jihad.
To sit is the practice arisen from advice, not commanded but like a commandment, thou shalt sit to practice Buddha. Salvation is within the experience of true self. He may not have said sit for salvation, but the "true form of self" does save us from the self we normally identify as. Jihad is the war that goes within the minds of those who struggle to sit. Joe --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill!" <billsm...@...> wrote: > > ED, > > You're right as usual. Dogen didn't mention anything aboout commandments, > salvation or jihad. > > ...Bill! > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > Dogen's assertion is simple, clear, inspiring and beautiful to many; but > > Jewish, Christian or Muslim religion might not buy into Dogen's schtick. > > --ED > > > > > > > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > I don't often post quotes from others, but I'll make an exception for > > this one: > > > > > > "Sitting itself is the practice of the Buddha. Sitting itself is > > nondoing. It is > > nothing but the true form of the self. Apart from sitting, there is > > nothing to > > seek as the buddhadharma." - Dogen Zenji > > > > Any questions? > > > > ...Bill! > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/