They have mentioned them, but not taught them.  I wouldn't go so far as to say 
they have said anything bad about them, but I understood these other methods of 
meditation would not be beneficial in zen practice.  They might be beneficial 
for something else though...Bill!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "ED" <seacrofter...@...> wrote:
> JM,
> Are there many Chan Masters or Chan centers or Chan temples or Chan
> organizations in the US?
> Thanks,
> --ED


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