JMJM, Nagarjuna (Longshu Pusa) was the grandfather of mahayana. Tantrism also recognizes him as their initiator (truly or not is up to discussion). 'Mizong' is another name for Tantrism, so you are an expert of Tantrism. Tantrism is split into branches. One of them engages in 'sex ritual'. Do you do it? Anthony
--- On Wed, 12/1/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.j...@gmail.com> wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.j...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Zen] Tao vs Chan, Rid dirty chi, Ultimate Truth To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 12 January, 2011, 8:19 AM Hello Anthony, I really am not familiar with Tibetan Tantrism. Please share with the forum. For whatever its worth, the only thing that I have "heard" was Tibetan Buddhism, or "Secret Order", or 『密宗』， was taught by 『龍樹菩薩』，who is Chan Master. Therefore Chan is also considered 『大密宗』， or "Grand Secret Order". There could be many similarities in the practice. Our practice is called, 『秘密內證法』， or "Secret Inner Witness Dharma". :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 1/11/2011 3:53 PM, Anthony Wu wrote: JMJM, Besides Buddhism and Tao, your Chan practice also absorb something from Tibetan Tantrism, as described by you on chakras and energy channels. If you don't agree, please explain. Anthony --- On Tue, 11/1/11, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.j...@gmail.com> wrote: From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.j...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Zen] Tao vs Chan, Rid dirty chi, Ultimate Truth To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 11 January, 2011, 3:17 PM Hello TMSO, (I hope you don't mind me using initials :-) ） Again very important question. Before I say anything I like to repeat what my teacher often remind us, "Practice and you shall witness. We all can." My words are only for your reference. The Sitting Practice of Chan is mostly Tao. The Words are most Buddhism, because 49 years of teaching gave us a lot of terms to use. The spiritual realms we reach however are universal and label-less. Stage one, we practice to reach Constant Turning Of Dharma Wheels. In layman's language, that is to cycle three energy channels passing all ten chakras, three times, within a single breath. Then our body is pure. This will take about three years for average person, if practices on a daily basis. At this stage, our physical being transforms into an energy being, we are naturally fed with universal energy constantly. (I don't have jet lag. Don't get tired.) Ultimate Truth/Final Form/True Form is called by some the Ninth Consciousness, or the Realm of Light. It is the Truth, Kindness and Perfection. Some call it the nature of the universe, or nature of chan, or the nature of all of us. :-) Our meditation website is htttp://www.chan-meditation.org. And if you register and log in at heartchan.org, there are about 8 or 10 video taught directly by our Lineage Chan Master, be connected with His chi while listening to his words. There is English subtitle. Each is about 45 minutes long. Let me know if you need more details. Thank you for giving me this opportunity to share. JMJM Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 1/10/2011 8:14 PM, taomtnsage1 wrote: To Jue Miao Jing Ming- Could you please tell me how Chan is different than Tao. Also, how in Chan can we rid our bodies of dirty chi, and replace it with fresh. I meditate with a candle (candle gazing) and am able to go for long periods where I am "one" with the candle. I can't describe it-I just "am". I have no thoughts, I just "am." It's incredible. Lastly, what is the state of Ultimate Truth/Final Form/True Form. Thank you for taking the time to answer this...taomtnsa...@yahoo.com
