Bill;
 
What movie is that?.  What is the tittle of the movie?.  It sounds good.  
 
Mayka

--- On Tue, 15/2/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Bill! <[email protected]>
Subject: [Zen] Re: Pain Management 1 - Stopping
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, 15 February, 2011, 9:29


  



Mayka,

The 3 points you list below aren't specifically referred to in the song I 
posted, but there is a scene in the movie that is exactly the same as these 3 
points.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote:
>
> Bill;
> I don't fully understand the song
> but I like its straight forward language.  Can you point it out the verses 
> you mention in your post?.
>  
> As a response to your mp3
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FD7HD1iHzw
>  
> Mayka
>  
>  
>  
> --- On Mon, 14/2/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Bill! <BillSmart@...>
> Subject: [Zen] Re: Pain Management 1 - Stopping
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, 14 February, 2011, 0:56
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> I couldn't help but comment that the three steps you list below are exactly 
> the message put forward in FIGHT CLUB...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@> wrote:
> >
> >   
> > Pain Management 1 â€" Stopping
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > We all have the experience of having experienced pain at certain moments in 
> > our lives. How often have we be having pain in us and kept doing different 
> > activities in the body and the mind without listen to our pain calling our 
> > attention?. Some of us seem to only listen to it when the pain becomes a s 
> > screaming child having a tantrum. 
> > 
> > 
> > At the first sign of pain one should learn how to stop. Only when one knows 
> > how to stop there wherever one is, the pain won't escalate at such high 
> > degrees of hysteria. But if still by stopping escalates to higher levels of 
> > severity it won't be the same as when one doesn't know how to stop. And by 
> > no meanings the same if you are a practitioner or you are not, if you are 
> > in severe pain and need to scream, cried out, go into tears...do it. And 
> > stay with it. Never try to repress your pain in anyway. Very important to 
> > understand this. To repress pain it only will make it worse. 
> > 
> > 
> > Pain involves body and mind and therefore the awareness of the in and out 
> > breathing used as the tool that unites body and mind is the most important 
> > tool through pain management. The body on its own and separated from the 
> > mind can't survive. What's happening to the body is also happening in the 
> > mind. And viceverse. Therefore both have to be one working in a team. The 
> > body and the mind has to become one sangha in harmony at those moments. And 
> > there is not other way for that the awareness of the in and out breathing 
> > acting as the bridge uniting both as one organism.
> > 
> > 
> > In order to stop:
> > 1- One has to recognise that one is in pain . It's not exactly the same to 
> > have pain as to have pain and being aware of having pain. 
> > 2- Acceptance that there is pain.
> > 3- Staying with the pain.
> > 
> > 
> > At the first go of acknowledging pain and staying with it, one may 
> > experience an increment level of pain. Don't be discouraged by that and 
> > stay with it even if makes you yell, cry or scream. Express out any sound 
> > if that help you to stay there with your pain. It's a natural response of 
> > the mind this apparent incrementation of pain. That is the mind used to run 
> > away of pain which can't handle now facing it. Stay with it. At a later 
> > stage you will find out that the hardest is that moment of facing and 
> > staying with that pain, the most healing energy at the same time you are 
> > getting into your body. 
> > 
> > 
> > Have a resting day! 
> > Mayka
> >
>






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