K... Sorry to hear about it. I wasn't lecturing you but just giving a response to your posting. If you, myself or anybody else write something in the forum, then one also has to have the courage to handle the different responses. There was not intention of offense, though. Mayka
--- On Wed, 23/2/11, Kristy McClain <[email protected]> wrote: From: Kristy McClain <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others? To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 18:55 Mayka, Not that its any of your business.. but yes-- I have been. My economics professor broke into my apartment and did just that. Satisfied? Don't even think you can lecture me about "how" or 'what" to feel, or not feel... k --- On Wed, 2/23/11, Maria Lopez <[email protected]> wrote: From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others? To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 11:50 AM K... Have you ever been raped for real?. What would you do if your daughter, sister, mother, niece... will be raped?. Are you sure that approach will be so understanding?. It's terrible to see in all ways the state of a woman who has been raped specially if the woman is very young. The psychological wounds of some raped women can at times be so bad that some women commit suicide after a while. I saved the life of one this women reacting after the years being raped here in Edinburgh. She has never been again the same girl as before being raped. It's precisely because one is one with everything else that a rapist needs to be castrated at the very least. And as for women sexual fantasies of being raped was out of line. A comment like this only can encourage more a rapist to keep going. Mayka --- On Wed, 23/2/11, Kristy McClain <[email protected]> wrote: From: Kristy McClain <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others? To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011, 18:22 Edgar is indeed correct. It can be "comforting" to believe that the incentive is power--hatred of women and the like. But the evidence, and the report from rapists themselves, is that it is indeed about sex. Though other factors co-exist. 10 years ago, i was moderating a rape-fantasy discussion board, as part of a training exercise. A clinical psychologist in NY was running a group for male sex offenders who were in prison. We had many discussions on this, and the consenses was in agreement with this article. The psychologist running the group was--himself drawn to the act of rape as a sexual drive. He told me that the best gift his wife gave him was the acceptance she offered him when he confessed this to her. She even offered to role-play a rape scene with him, but he refused. He told me that he felt it might get out of hand. Its easy to label these men as monsters as a means to deny their right to even exist. Brand them. Shun them. But they do exist, and have since the dawn of man. If we are all "one", we can only hope to heal if everyone is included in the process. I may hate child abusers.. but I remember that more often than not, they were abused too. btw.. There are many, many females who have rape fantasies, as part of their erotic responses. Remember.. I recognize this is a polarizing topic. I'm not denying the experience rape has on unwilling females. I'm just offering another perspective because the only way to ever hope to prevent or heal the problem, is to look at it with a clear mirror. Edgar, What does the data show on rape when it is done in countries as part of geneocide? Kristy --- On Wed, 2/23/11, Edgar Owen <[email protected]> wrote: From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others? To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 8:08 AM Rape is primarily about satisfying sexual desire when it can't be achieved otherwise. Complete power over a woman can be a very strong aphrodisiac. Especially where violence or injury is involved it can also be combined with the man's desire for revenge against women for perceived psychological injury previously suffered at the hands of a woman or women in general by the rapist. Edgar On Feb 23, 2011, at 9:45 AM, ED wrote: Hi Audrey - Yours is an assertion that conforms to the usual feminist position. It may be true or it may not. Has the truth of the assertion been confirmed by say neurophysiologists and neuropsychologists? Thanks, ED --- In [email protected], "audreydc1983" <audreydc1983@...> wrote: > > I will beg to differ on one point: Rape has little to do with sexual desire. > It is about power, control, and victimization. > Those of us who believe sex is a natural product of lust, sexual desire, and > love often will assume that rape, since it is a sexual act, is associated in > some way with these feelings. > This assumption couldn't be further from the truth. If there is any desire in > rape, it is the desire to control/victimize. > > ~Audrey
