ED,

Only by dropping the mind (and by association the 'tools' of the mind) can 
Buddha Mind be. There are external factors that science can observe/test (brain 
waves; neurological changes; personality changes etc.), but in Buddha Mind 
there 
are no observers to do the observing.

Mike




________________________________
From: ED <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 3 March, 2011 3:24:44
Subject: [Zen] Re: Is Enlightenment a process?

  


 
Mike,
If 'Buddha Mind' is a supra-natural phenomenon, it is not necessarily amenable 
to rational analysis.
If Buddha Mind is a natural phenomenon, it should be amenable to rational, 
psychological, physiological and neurological analyses.
--ED
 
--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> ED,
> 
> It's not so much that it shouldn't be touched by rational analysis, but more 
> that it can't. As for faith and hope, well, that depends from which side 
> you're 
>
> looking at it ; )
> 
> Mike
 Mike,
This is the magnificent Act of Faith and Hope which is the foundation of Zen 
and 
Buddhism, which can dispel doubt and confusion, and bring tranquility, hope, 
joy 
and guidance to many.
I am reluctant to touch it with rational analysis.
--ED

 
> > The Buddha Mind is none other than our own pure, original mind that is 
> > always 
>
> >present, and merely hidden by deluded thought. Many Zen texts from the 
>earliest 
>
> >times describe this: 
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >  Mike



      

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