Bill!,

What do you think? 

Mike




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From: Bill! <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 3 March, 2011 10:13:56
Subject: [Zen] Re: Is Enlightenment a process?

  
Mike,

I was amused at the question you asked at the very end of your post below. Was 
the humor intentional?

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> It seems to be the view of many Buddhist practioners (and on this 
>forum) that 
>
> meditation is essential for Self-Realisation. I meditate myself and have sat 
> in 
>
> 10 day retreats here in japan, but I don't believe that Realisation is a 
>process 
>
> (ie thru meditation). Rather, the Absolute is unborn - without beginning or 
>end 
>
> - and can be realised simply by 'waking up' to our true nature. Does 
>meditation 
>
> help us to wake up? Undoubtedly! It's just that meditation has nothing to do 
> with enlightenment per se. 
> 
> 
> The Buddha Mind is none other than our own pure, original mind that is always 
> present, and merely hidden by deluded thought. Many Zen texts from the 
> earliest 
>
> times describe this: 
> 
> 
> Hongren (600-674): Just as the light of the sun is never destroyed, but is 
> merely obscured by clouds and mists, the pure mind possessed by all sentient 
> beings is merely hidden by layered clouds of discursive thinking, false 
>notions, 
>
> and deluded views. Just clearly maintain [awareness of] the mind and do not 
>give 
>
> rise to false notions. The Dharma sun of nirvana will then naturally appear. 
> Thus we know that our minds are inherently pure. 
> 
> 
> Huineng (638ー713): Huineng said, “Do not think of good, do not think of 
>evil. At 
>
> this very moment, what is your original face before your father and mother 
> were 
>
> born?� 
> 
> 
> Damei Fachang 大梅法常 (752â€"839): Monks, strive to reach the root; do 
> not 
>chase 
>
> after the branches. Reach the root, and the rest will naturally follow. If 
> you 

> wish to perceive the root, just see into your own mind. This mind is the 
> source 
>
> of all, both mundane and supermundane. When mind arises the various dharmas 
> arise; when mind is extinguished, the various dharmas disappear. If you give 
> rise to the mind that is unattached to good and bad, all things are in their 
> true state. 
> 
> 
> Linji (d. 866): If you will just bring to rest the thoughts of the 
> ceaselessly 

> seeking mind, you will not differ from the patriarch-buddha.Turn your own 
> light 
>
> inward upon yourselves!
>  
> Thoughts?
>  
> Mike
>





      

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