Hi Mel:
 
What is the seiza position?.  
 
You don't have to sit down in any stool if you don't find them comfortable.  
You can do in a chair appropriate for your needs.  But you will need to look 
around and try different ones for you.  It's important not to precipitate and 
purchase the first thing that come to you. First try them in the shop.  Take 
your time.   I don't usually check much over prices when it comes to health.  
This is something learnt my both parents and the culture in the Vasque Country 
where I originally come from.   We do everything in favour to be healthy and we 
don't look much into costs. We first apply this to the food we eat which is of 
great quality in the Vasque Country.  We are brought up in that way over 
there.  
 
One of the things that was very difficult for me in the UK when I first came 
was the low quality of the food and the lack of natural products.  It was not 
surprising then finding out that  the average age mortality in Glasgow was at 
65 years old.  And have to say that the Scott's eat better than the 
English.  The English shocked with the unhealty and poor food they eat at the 
time.  Some English minorities have improved their way of eating since then.    
This only to say that first priority for heath is the food.   Good food in the 
UK is extremely expensive and never is as good as is in any of the 
Mediterranean Countries.  This lead me to be very creative and imaginative with 
the cooking.  In fact Mayka house is one of the best places to eat in 
Edinburgh.  No kidding. Hahaha...Saying all this and applied to your case,  if 
you are not in high income you have to use that difficulty towards creativity 
searching what is the best for
 your health.  The practice of mindfulness or being aware of...it comes really 
practical and handy as it's a most creative energy of survival.  And I really 
mean it. 
 
Mayka
 
 
 
 
 
--- On Wed, 16/3/11, Mel <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Mel <[email protected]>
Subject: [Zen] health problems, 'secrets'/mysteries,(to Mayka/list)
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, 16 March, 2011, 8:00


  







Hey there Mayka!

--- On Tue, 15/3/11, Maria Lopez <[email protected]> wrote: 
 
MAYKA: But I suppose that there are many kinds and different measures of them.  
Each of them is unique. They are crafted made with a remarkable measures 
accuracy that allows one to sit down with straight back and comfort.  The one I 
have it was a good bye present by one of my sangha friends in Edinburgh 
who went to live to Japan.  This stool wasn't made in Japan but here in 
Edinburgh under the instructions and supervision of a many years experienced 
practicioner and ex-Tibetan nun.  I was extremely lucky that this stool was 
wrongly made for her body measure but perfect for mine. She wasn't as much tall 
as I am and my legs were much longer than hers. She used to complain about 
it  as she couldn't find her way round to it.  But when I tried on it looked 
like as the carpenter took my measures instead of her for the stool!. 

MEL: Before my arthritis and gout problems, I myself never had any problem with 
any of the zazen stools that I used. Funny, but I guess I was lucky. In my 20s 
when I was slim and much more presentable, I used to be able to tuck my legs 
underneath them

I wanted to buy one last year, but it was going to set me back for something 
like (Australian)$85-$90

MAYKA: I suffer from a disability in my lower back with severe flares ups of 
mobility.  Some years ago condition deteriorated and affected my right leg in a 
way that it wasn't possible to sit down in that stool or kneel down.   So I was 
for several years in a row sitting down over a chair.  It was just only about 
this past December that I started to sit back down in the zazen Japanese stool 
for periods of 20 minutes.  I can't go farther than that as my right leg gets 
very swollen. 

MEL: Damn, that's no good, and I thought I was the only one here with serious 
health problems. Sorry to hear that, signora. I can't remember who told me, but 
many of today's Japanese apparently cannot sit in the 'seiza' position...both 
old and young 

MAYKA: 

- I don't know why your Teacher told you that the zazen Japanese stool are 
ridiculous.

- With all due respect to your Teacher tell him that his saying about the zazen 
Japanese stool being ridiculous sucks.  Tell him to look a good Japanese movie 
and see how traditional Japanese people sit down while having tea, 
eating....and then he will understand that is far of being a ridiculous stool 
but very practical cleverly designed. 
 
MEL: I actually haven't seen or spoken to him for almost 20 years now, and I 
didn't really pay notice to his comment until many years later. I also do 
remember seeing at least one Japanese movie where the actors sat on zazen 
stools, but I can't remember which film exactly. Probably one of the modern ones

My then teacher was something of an unusual character. He spoke to me and some 
of the other students about revealing karate 'secrets' in time if we stayed 
long enough with him. This had been partly why (amongst other reasons) I don't 
exactly show a great deal enthusiasm today when I come across anyone speaking 
of such things as enlightenment, secrets, the mysteries, and/or similar. I also 
didn't exactly agree with the brutal teaching methods that he and the senior 
male students employed...even if he was an ordained Zen priest along the lines 
of the late but highly-regarded Kodo Sawaki-sensei

Buddha be praised
Mel
[email protected]
 
 

 




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