Hi Mel!; Can't help while reading your posting keep an smile all the way through. You sound such an easy going person!. It doesn't seem to affect you much my straight forward way of expressing myself. You don't take an offence in that. You let me be myself. Appreciate that in you, Great that you found the appropriate chair. That is the most difficult part when one has disabilities and limitations in the body. Once this is sorted...wow, what a release!. Seiza Position; You have explained very well what is that position. No need to go to the wiki for that. Based on seiza posture the Japanese zen little stool was created. The difference here is that while sitting down there is an elevation of the whole branch of the body. The legs are still bent but the bottom doesn't sit over the feet. The top of the stool is not plain but with a light inclination studied to keep the back straight. A bit as when one sits down over a cushion. There is also a name to this posture but don't know what it is called. There is someone in my sangha who is into yoga and she's the one who knows all the names of different postures. The beautiful here is that by sitting down one gets in any of that postures taught as correct but one has never heard about them. It only comes to show how true and real is my statement when I say that correct posture comes by itself sitting down. Never looked anywhere, never asked to anyone to show me the way of sitting down. This unfolded by itself in time sitting down. I've been a vegetarian since almost early teens. This was interrupted over early twenties due to anaemic. But then back to it in my very early thirties and never back to meat since then. I'm in my late forties now. So it would be difficult for me to tell you the differences between the meats in different countries as it's something that lost contact with it long time ago. After the years the body has developed a sense of repulsion for its smell. For instance; If I would be eaten a product that contains animal grease such as some cheese, biscuits....when that will reach my stomach It would cause me a sensation of vomit. This has happened at times to me while buying some milk products and not looking into their labels contains. Strangely, I can drink very light cow milk mixed with a major quantity of (water) coffee or Earl Grey tea. Yes, you're right. In the last years and with Tony Blair in power, he promoted a great deal the healthy eating. There were even premiums to all those who will be losing weight. In addition Prince Charles promoted with his example to cultivate one organic vegetables (Prince Charles and Lady Di plus their children used to do for many years a month holiday in the Mariben Palace in Mallorca, Spain. So you can gather where the taste for good food was born) . The British Government understanding the importance of the food started to promote it. How clever of them!. It was time, though. Nonetheless It will take time to educate to the whole British population. And when that happens, they may even say that they were the ones who educate to the Mediterranean people how to eat. Hehe....!!!. They can't handle being under the Mediterranean people in that respect. So they're competitive ego is working fast and hard to be better healthy eaters than us. And for once is good that kind of competitive ego as it will help to health improvement the whole population. Good for them! Mayka --- On Sat, 19/3/11, Mel <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Mel <[email protected]> Subject: [Zen] 'seiza', cooking styles, (to Mayka/list) To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, 19 March, 2011, 8:16 MAYKA: Hi Mel MEL: Hey there Mayka! MAYKA: What is the seiza position?. MEL: It's the sitting position many Japanese have traditionally used for sitting on the floor. You first kneel on the floor, and then fold your legs beneath your thighs and sit you buttocks on your heels. Or, go to GOOGLE, type seiza in the box, click IMAGES on the result. The IMAGES section in GOOGLE will show how it looks like SEIZA is impossible for me because of arthritis and gout MAYKA: You don't have to sit down in any stool if you don't find them comfortable. You can do in a chair appropriate for your needs. But you will need to look around and try different ones for you. MEL: The plastic chair I use now without a back-rest is great! MAYKA: It's important not to precipitate and purchase the first thing that come to you. First try them in the shop. Take your time. MEL: I went to one of our NewAge shops here and came across one that was just like the one used in a Tibetan meditation hall here that was used by one of the larger Zen groups in our state. I tried it, the cushion felt funny, and it was overall, not feeling very stable. Gee, I almost bought it! MAYKA: I don't usually check much over prices when it comes to health. This is something learnt my both parents and the culture in the Vasque Country where I originally come from. We do everything in favour to be healthy and we don't look much into costs. We first apply this to the food we eat which is of great quality in the Vasque Country. We are brought up in that way over there. One of the things that was very difficult for me in the UK when I first came was the low quality of the food and the lack of natural products. MEL: That's something I was wondering about for a while: You're from Spain, and you're living in cold, northern Europe where people....and THE FOOD....*sighs/laughter*...are different. How did you do that?...'cause the Spaniards have this passion for good food...in fact, the Basques are worse....because cooking and eating in good company is almost like a religion, isn't it?...*more laughter*... Ok, maybe I shouldn't say such things about the Brits and their eating habits, considering that they now have the likes of Nigella Lawson, Gordon Ramsay, Nick Nairn, and Jamie Oliver roaming around the world now teaching people how to cook good food, very good food.. MAYKA: It was not surprising then finding out that the average age mortality in Glasgow was at 65 years old. MEL: That was the usual in my family, until my mother came along. She's somewhere around 70 now (I think), and I hope I do just as well. I'm 48 now MAYKA: And have to say that the Scott's eat better than the English. The English shocked with the unhealty and poor food they eat at the time. MEL: I didn't know that MAYKA: Good food in the UK is extremely expensive and never is as good as is in any of the Mediterranean Countries. MEL: That's what Mediterranean co-workers and others used to tell me. They said lamb and chicken taste different over there, compared to what we have here DownUnder(Australia) MAYKA: This lead me to be very creative and imaginative with the cooking. MEL: I learnt a long, lonnnngggg time ago....to never invent. Without the cookbook, I'm a ship sailing with a broken compass and a dead sailing crew...*laughter*.... Hey, do you like 'cordero en chilindron?' I've cooked it, eaten it...and lovvvvedd it! Viva Aragon! (..*smiles/laughter*..No, I'm not fluent in Castillan, I'm just tryin' to impress..ahhh, Filipinos...despite the difficulties of Spanish rule, we still have this thing about Spain) MAYKA: In fact Mayka house is one of the best places to eat in Edinburgh. No kidding. Hahaha...Saying all this and applied to your case, if you are not in high income you have to use that difficulty towards creativity searching what is the best for your health. The practice of mindfulness or being aware of...it comes really practical and handy as it's a most creative energy of survival. And I really mean it. MEL: I have witnessed a few people in my family who can be creative in the kitchen without a cookbook..starting with my own dear mother. One aunty and cousin (both on mom's side of the family) are the same. My brother is also almost making the grade as well, but me? Oh heck, I need my compass...I mean, my cookbook (I think I have nearly 30) You must be indeed a good cook Mayka, you gotta be...I mean, you're a Basque. A Basque who can't cook is like the sky has fallen on our heads, no?..*smiles/peace*... in Buddha's great appetite Mel --- On Wed, 16/3/11, Mel <[email protected]> wrote: From: Mel <[email protected]> Subject: [Zen] health problems, 'secrets'/mysteries,(to Mayka/list) To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 16 March, 2011, 8:00 Hey there Mayka! --- On Tue, 15/3/11, Maria Lopez <[email protected]> wrote: MAYKA: But I suppose that there are many kinds and different measures of them. Each of them is unique. They are crafted made with a remarkable measures accuracy that allows one to sit down with straight back and comfort. The one I have it was a good bye present by one of my sangha friends in Edinburgh who went to live to Japan. This stool wasn't made in Japan but here in Edinburgh under the instructions and supervision of a many years experienced practicioner and ex-Tibetan nun. I was extremely lucky that this stool was wrongly made for her body measure but perfect for mine. She wasn't as much tall as I am and my legs were much longer than hers. She used to complain about it as she couldn't find her way round to it. But when I tried on it looked like as the carpenter took my measures instead of her for the stool!. MEL: Before my arthritis and gout problems, I myself never had any problem with any of the zazen stools that I used. Funny, but I guess I was lucky. In my 20s when I was slim and much more presentable, I used to be able to tuck my legs underneath them I wanted to buy one last year, but it was going to set me back for something like (Australian)$85-$90 MAYKA: I suffer from a disability in my lower back with severe flares ups of mobility. Some years ago condition deteriorated and affected my right leg in a way that it wasn't possible to sit down in that stool or kneel down. So I was for several years in a row sitting down over a chair. It was just only about this past December that I started to sit back down in the zazen Japanese stool for periods of 20 minutes. I can't go farther than that as my right leg gets very swollen. MEL: Damn, that's no good, and I thought I was the only one here with serious health problems. Sorry to hear that, signora. I can't remember who told me, but many of today's Japanese apparently cannot sit in the 'seiza' position...both old and young MAYKA: - I don't know why your Teacher told you that the zazen Japanese stool are ridiculous. - With all due respect to your Teacher tell him that his saying about the zazen Japanese stool being ridiculous sucks. Tell him to look a good Japanese movie and see how traditional Japanese people sit down while having tea, eating....and then he will understand that is far of being a ridiculous stool but very practical cleverly designed. MEL: I actually haven't seen or spoken to him for almost 20 years now, and I didn't really pay notice to his comment until many years later. I also do remember seeing at least one Japanese movie where the actors sat on zazen stools, but I can't remember which film exactly. Probably one of the modern ones My then teacher was something of an unusual character. He spoke to me and some of the other students about revealing karate 'secrets' in time if we stayed long enough with him. This had been partly why (amongst other reasons) I don't exactly show a great deal enthusiasm today when I come across anyone speaking of such things as enlightenment, secrets, the mysteries, and/or similar. I also didn't exactly agree with the brutal teaching methods that he and the senior male students employed...even if he was an ordained Zen priest along the lines of the late but highly-regarded Kodo Sawaki-sensei Buddha be praised Mel [email protected]
