Mike,

Do I have a choice other than to surrender to the superior insight of a
kensho-tinged nondual perception?  [:p]

--ED



--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> ED,
>
> Well, neither the length of time one sits nor its "intensity" will
determine if
> one 'gets it', or not (the trinity of wisdom, compassion, equanimity).
I think
> the problem people have with words like 'compassion' is that they
interpret the
> word from a dualitic viewpoint: 'I have to be kind to him'; 'I
shouldn't think
> bad thoughts about them' etc. This problem of breaking down compassion
into
> the doer, the act and the object of compassion can be transcended with
the
> wisdom that 'I' and the 'other' are the same. How can compassion not
arise when
> we realise that our actions (when there is a 'doer'-object), and the
actions of
> others, cause the same pain and suffering we've experienced?
>
> Mike



> Mike,
> What I hear you say below is:  With appropriately intensive zen
practice (with
> no objective in mind), wisdom, compassion and equanimity will quite
naturally
> arise in the practitioner.
> Yes?
> --ED


> > I don't see Zen as a technique to be employed in particular adverse
situations
> >to ease a troubled mind.
> >
> > Small 'z' zen just is - there are no qualities to it that can be
talked about.
>
> > There is, however, a way to express zen and this would be thru
equanimity,
> >compassion and wisdom.
> >
> > Mike


> > > Has has your Zen practice benefitted you in this stressful
situation?
> > > --ED


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