Mayka,

I've been on this forum for 7 years, taken  part in hundreds of threads and 
only 
now have people have finally cottoned on to the fact that I'm in the below 
classification:

I can understand him here because there is indeed a lot of deceiving 
information 
about zen and pretentious teachers, gurus selling zen all over the world 
 
Aww shucks, and if it wasn't for that darn meddling ED I would've gotten away 
with it, too.
 
Mikey dooby doo





 



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From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, 24 March, 2011 18:21:02
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Add Nothing Extra

  
Mike;
 
I wouldn't say that ED did an ugly question as you stated.  It was just a 
question coming from someone who tries to make sure that he's having 
the correct 
information to rely on.  I can understand him here because there is indeed a 
lot 
of deceiving information about zen and pretentious teachers, gurus selling zen 
all over the world and with particular focus in USA.  So it's natural that ED 
has the need to ask for a prove over credibility.  I would do the same in his 
place.  I was lucky enough that I found the dharma when it wasn't as commercial 
as it has become now in Europe.  

 
On the other hand, ED is very stubborn and still can't understand that there is 
nothing to be understood by the intellectual mind in zen but just to work for, 
to experience with...
 
Mayka


--- On Thu, 24/3/11, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote:


>From: mike brown <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Add Nothing Extra
>To: [email protected]
>Date: Thursday, 24 March, 2011, 6:20
>
>
>  
>ED,
>
>>Yes, as they so nicely say in Japan: "The nail that sticks out gets hammered 
>>down."
>
>I don't know about the US, but in the UK there is something called the 'tall 
>poppy syndrome' where the media relentlessly intrude into a person's 
>life (usually unsolicited, but not always) and then hypocritically proceed to 
>publicly break-down that person for being too prominent. If the analogy here 
>escapes you, then I think you're going to need a bigger hammer. 
>
>>>Have your claims to realization of Buddha Nature been accredited 
>>>by authentic 
>>>Zen Masters?
>
>Wow, that's a pretty ugly question and the first time in 10 years anyone has 
>ever felt the need to ask me. Kinda reminds me of that that scene in Raging 
>Bull 
>where Jake LaMotta, out of unwarranted paranoia, asks his brother, "Did you 
>fuck 
>my wife?" Of course, his brother (played by Joe Pesci), being a much classier 
>act than me, refused to answer. No, I have never received 'inka' from an 
>"authentic Zen Master" and I have never attended a Zen temple diligently 
>enough 
>to qualify. Rather, have my 'openings', 'break-throughs', 'glimpses' been 
>recognised in dokusan (noone I've ever had dokusan with uses words like 
>'Buddha 
>Nature'/kensho/satori)? Well, have you ever fucked someone else's wife 
>(Sometimes in Zen we do use *you*)?
>
>Mike
>
> 



      

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