Mel,

Sorry boyo, not picking on you today but just remembered something I forgot to 
say earlier.

>>[Mel] If I'm right about Mike above, then BigMind might have taken over. 
>>However, in my opinion, watch the insignificant 'small self'...as that could 
>>be 
>>behind the words of reproof towards ED below. <<

I can't speak for others here, but *everything* I write on this forum is of 
the "small self" (if anything 'windswept and mysterious' comes thru - it's 
there 
by default!). It's fun making castles in the sky when you know they're all 
built 
on sand : )

Mike

 



________________________________
From: Mel <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, 25 March, 2011 22:22:40
Subject: [Zen] 'Sins', babies, admonitions, attachments, etc

  
Very interesting..give kindness, and one gets a slap across the face. JMJM, 
look 
out or you'll get more. Be unkind, and one is rewarded with gentleness. 
Amazin'..in fact, I've experienced both sides/ends myself during my young days 
in the Australian Army

I think Mike has had enough and he's ready to move on. ED being the typical 
dualistically-minded Semite suddenly realizes the evil of his ways and wishes 
to 
be forgiven for his 'sins'. Or, ED could have been having a good belly-laugh as 
he typed below, but who knows?

If I'm right about Mike above, then BigMind might have taken over. However, in 
my opinion, watch the insignificant 'small self'...as that could be behind the 
words of reproof towards ED below. When dealing with irrational creatures, the 
sounds they emit soon become insignificant. I simply watch for movement...for 
the waters of the waves do not discuss with each other before, during, and 
after 
crashing onto each other

ED values the 'small self', as exemplified by the online behaviour below, 
unless 
he meant below as a joke. If my assumptions are correct, then perhaps to lose 
'kensho-tinged' Master Mike would just be too much and ED's 'small self' cannot 
let go of the attachment. After all, the 'small self' has to hang onto 
something, no?

I've worked with children of ages 0-5 years. Babies being babies, they do what 
they do. When mother is gone, he cries. When she comes back, he's happy. This 
is 
natural for a baby. There is nothing dualistic about this. One even sees this 
with baby animals in the zoo. Normally, how mother and young interact with each 
other is BigMind in operation. However, we as adults in this forum are just 
that..adults. We don't need to be needy. Unfortunately, influences from Semite 
and other cultures teach us otherwise. Henceforth, we find difficulties due to 
dualistic notions we have grown up with. It's hard to say whether becoming an 
ordained Zen monk will take care of this problem. If it did, I would have.. 


- left all my worldly belongings
- made myself a robe
- bought a small cheap bowl, or bowl-like pot with a lid
- walked out there in the outside world, ready to face misery 
and on-coming death from from even the frost in the middle of winter

Would I have done the above? Heck no! Like ED above and below, I'm also guilty 
of dualism
 
Buddha be praised
Mel

--- On Fri, 25/3/11, ED <[email protected]> wrote:

Mike,
Whatever mercy and compassion you have to spare will be gratefully accepted.
--ED
 
--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:

ED, 
Sure, I can forgive you for those. I can also forgive you for being a pompous, 
smug arsehole too, if you'd like?
 
Mike

--- In [email protected],   ED wrote:

I had wrongly assumed that persons who had realised Buddha Nature would have 
also attained the state of Muga: nonself, egolessness, and so would not at 
all have been offended by a straight-forward question.
Please forgive me for my lack of perspicacity and compassion. 
 



      

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