Mel,  That was exactly my point.

You said Zen Buddhism was "No god, priesthood, committees and meetings, 
bullyings and coercions, false histories and mysteries, scriptures of any sort, 
terrible sermons...best of all...NOTHING ACADEMIC."

I'll guarantee you that you won't find those qualities in Zen Buddhist sanghas, 
or any other kind of Buddhist organizations, or any other kind of religious 
organizations.  That's what religions do...Bill!
 

--- In [email protected], Mel <gunnar19632000@...> wrote:
>
> I've made attempts along those lines Bill. Not for me. Too independent-minded
> 
> in peace 
> Mel
> 
> --- On Mon, 28/3/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote:
> 
> Mel,
> 
> All I can say to your post below is that from reading it I assume you have 
> never actually been a member of a Zen Buddhist sangha...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], Mel <gunnar19632000@> wrote:
> >
> > - No god, priesthood, committees and meetings, bullyings and coercions, 
> > false histories and mysteries, scriptures of any sort, terrible 
> > sermons...best of all...NOTHING ACADEMIC
> >  
> > - Great for high blood pressure!! Yaaayyyyy!!!!!!
> >  
> > Buddha be praised, indeed!!
> > Mel
> > 
> > --- On Sun, 27/3/11, SteveW <eugnostos2000@> wrote:
> 
> > From: SteveW <eugnostos2000@>
> > Subject: [Zen] Why bother with Zazen?
> > To: [email protected]
> > Received: Sunday, 27 March, 2011, 4:30 AM
> 
> > Hello. I am posting this question in response to the on-going 
> > back-and-forth concerning what Zen really is. Simply put, why did you take 
> > up Zen? Did you have an idea in your mind about what you were taking-up and 
> > why? Surely, no-one here just happened to sit down in a rather artificial 
> > and uncomfortable position and start watching his or her
> > breathing? 
> > Steve
>




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