I was under the impression that many of the circuits fired in meal
pain are the same as for physical pain?

And while wrong thought can certainly hurt, I have never seen any
convincing evidence to show we can wish it away.

Reprogramming the brain is not instaneous, at least not for every one.

Anyways, if you respond to a bullet wound with confidence and
equanimity, the suffering can be transformed into something not so
bad.

Disclaimer:  I have not been shot, I can only attest to the efficacy
of this approach to less painful things, broken toe, cut fingers,
scraped knee.  There are studies out there on chronic pain management
and surgical pain management indicating that pain of all sort responds
to mental changes.

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> psychology 'pain' and thus the treatment industry. In reality there is an 
> enormous difference in real physical pain and illusory psychological pain. 
> The difference is that physical pain is caused by an actual physical 
> occurrence whereas almost all so called psychological pain is entirely due to 
> wrong thought which can be instantly gotten rid of by changing the way one 
> thinks about things.
> It has been understood since ancient times that suffering (psychological 
> pain) is due to desires and attachments and by releasing those desires and 
> attachments that cause suffering the suffering vanishes. The suffering from 
> losing love vanishes instantly with letting go of the attachment to the love 
> object. Not so with physical pain. A bullet wound remains a real bullet wound 
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> Study illuminates the 'pain' of social rejectionMarch 28th, 2011 in
> Medicine & Health / Psychology & Psychiatry
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> Physical pain and intense feelings of social rejection "hurt" in the
> same way, a new study shows.The study demonstrates that the same regions of 
> the brain that become active
> in response to painful sensory experiences are activated during intense
> experiences of social rejection."These results give new meaning to the idea 
> that social rejection 'hurts',"
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> article published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
> "On the surface, spilling a hot cup of coffee on yourself and thinking about 
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> rejected you feel when you look at the picture of a person that you recently
> experienced an unwanted break-up with may seem to elicit very different types 
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> pain."But this research shows that they may be even more similar than 
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> with U-M colleague Marc Berman, Columbia University's Walter Mischel and 
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> Smith, also affiliated with the New York State Psychiatric Institute, and with
> Tor Wager of the University of Colorado, Boulder.While earlier research has 
> shown that the same brain regions support the
> emotionally distressing feelings that accompany the experience of both 
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> pain and social rejection, the current study is the first known to establish
> that there is neural overlap between both of these experiences in brain 
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> that become active when people experience painful sensations in their 
> body.These regions are the secondary somatosensory cortex and the dorsal 
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> insula.For the study, the researchers recruited 40 people who experienced an
> unwanted romantic break-up within the past six months, and who indicated that
> thinking about their break-up experience led them to feel intensely rejected.
> Each participant completed two tasks in the study---one related to their
> feelings of rejection and the other to sensations of physical pain.During the 
> rejection task, participants viewed either a photo of their
> ex-partner and thought about how they felt during their break-up experience or
> they viewed a photo of a friend and thought about a recent positive experience
> they had with that person. During the physical pain task, a thermal 
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> device was attached to participants left forearm. On some trials the probe
> delivered a painful but tolerable stimulation akin to holding a very hot cup 
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> coffee. On other trials it delivered non-painful, warm 
> stimulation.Participants performed all tasks while undergoing functional 
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> Resonance Imaging (fMRI) scans. The researchers conducted a series of analyses
> of the fMRI scans, focusing on the whole brain and on various regions of
> interest identified in earlier studies of physical pain. They also compared 
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> study's results to a database of more than 500 previous fMRI studies of brain
> responses to physical pain, emotion, working memory, attention switching,
> long-term memory and interference resolution."We found that powerfully 
> inducing feelings of social rejection activate
> regions of the brain that are involved in physical pain sensation, which are
> rarely activated in neuroimaging studies of emotion," Kross said. "These
> findings are consistent with the idea that the experience of social rejection,
> or social loss more generally, may represent a distinct emotional experience
> that is uniquely associated with physical pain."The team that performed the 
> research hopes that the findings will offer new
> insight into how the experience of intense social loss may lead to various
> physical pain symptoms and disorders. And they point out that the findings
> affirm the wisdom of cultures around the world that use the same
> language---words like "hurt" and "pain"---to describe the experience of both
> physical pain and social rejection.Provided by University of Michigan"Study 
> illuminates the 'pain' of social rejection." March 28th, 2011. 
> http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-illuminates-pain-social.htmlComment:
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> background, people experiencing emotional pain may cause actual pain to
> themselves eg slapping the face, knocking the head against a hard surface,
> pulling the hair and so on.  It is also noteworthy that cries of
> anguish (emotional pain) are very similar to cries from actual pain.Posted by
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