Nothing selfish about earning one's daily bread.

--- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote:
>
> There is a famous old Zen saying: a day without work, is a day without
food.
>
> The self-sufficiency of the zen monasteries is one reason Zen survived
> the anti-Buddhist times in China.
>
> One might take this attitude to be the opposite of conventional
> compassion, a hard core selfish ness, but only if you add in
> distinctions between different people onto the saying.
>
> I thout it would be funny, given the dialog about work going on.




> > Chris,
> > Can you explain?  (Zenspeak fails to enlighten me in this matter.)
> > --ED


> > --- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane chris@ wrote:
> >>
> >> A day without work is a day without food. whose work? whose food?


> >> > Mike,
> >> > Pro bono work is laudable. But first, one has to earn one's
keep. Zen stories emphasize this aspect of real (illusory) existence.
> >> > In one religion, one of the primary duties of the father is to
ensure that his son focuses on a profession to support himself and his
future family. This is very laudable too.
> >> > Zen, like this religion, has it's feet on the ground, while it
seeks to realize Buddha Nature (without seeking to realize Buddha
Nature.)
> >> > --ED


> >> >> ED,
> >> >>
> >> >> >Or as you have pointed out before, there is no self to turn
around.
> >> >> Zen Masters selling water by the river! Ho Ho Ho. But everyone
has got
> >> >> to make a living somehow.
> >> >>
> >> >> Don't worry, I work pro bono for those without means.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike


> >> >> Mike,
> >> >>
> >> >> Or as you have pointed out before, there is no self to turn
around.
> >> >> Zen Masters selling water by the river! Ho Ho Ho. But everyone
has got
> >> >> to make a living somehow.
> >> >>
> >> >> --ED


> >> >> > ED,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I like my self and I enjoy being in the world, but maybe the
trick is
> >> >> > to not let the world turn the self around.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mike


> >> >> > Selves make the world go round.
> >> >> > --ED


> >> >> > > Chris,
> >> >> > > The 'Never Ending Story', apparently never ending.
> >> >> > > Mike


> >> >> > > > Have you ever encountered an individual devoid of self or
ego?
> >> >> > > >--ED




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