--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Steve -  Whatever.  - ED
> 
> > Consider this excerpt from: "Zen-Brain Reflections" By Dr. James H.
> > Austin:
> >
> > Chapter 81, page 360 - 361
> >
> > "More useful Descriptions of the Other Qualities of Kensho-Satori
> >
> > Over the centuries, Buddhist school have since found ways to
> articulate
> > major qualities of kensho-satori.
> >
> > In their old Sino-Japanese phrases we can discover concepts like
> > eternity, suchness, nonduality, liberation and so on.
> >
> > When translated, the following words and short phrases can still help
> > puzzled readers who may wonder what is so special about this state of
> > insight-wisdom.
> >
> > [Four of the 11 phrases are below.]
> >
> > 4. Fusho fumetsu: neither arising nor perishing. The ultimate reality
> > of things is a static quality.
> >
> > 7. Honpusho: originally not produced. In the inactivity of ultimate
> > reality, nothing comes into existence and nothing disappears.
> >
> > 9. Mui jinen: the as-it-isness of absolute reality; things as they
> > really are, beyond all change
> >
> > 10. Shinyo: true suchness; unchanging reality"
> 
> Hi ED. You are, as you must realize, just indulging in saying the same thing 
> in different ways. But as long as we are being self-indulgent, what do you 
> think phenomenal change is? 
Steve




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