Anthony, I was taught that 'shikantaza' means 'just sit' - nothing else. How could there be some kind of shikantaza that WASN'T 'clear mind'? If your mind was not clear, if you were thinking about something, it wouldn't be shikantaza.
That is the way I use this word 'shikantaza' anyway. If you could suggest a better word please do... ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote: > > Bill, > Â > Correction: > Â > Anything else like counting or following the breath or koans are only > teaching techniques to get you to shikantaza with clear mind. > Â > Anthony > > --- On Sun, 10/4/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Buddhist meditation practices > To: [email protected] > Date: Sunday, 10 April, 2011, 12:05 AM > > > Â > > > > ED, > > In my opinion shikantaza is zazen. Anything else like counting or following > the breath or koans are only teaching techniques to get you to shikantaza. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > The list, author unknown is to be found in the source below. > > > > Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_meditation > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_meditation> > > > > Shikantaza is an awareness practice, whereas zazen involves both > > concentration meditation (breath-counting for instance) and shikantaza, > > in varying extents. > > > > --ED > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > > ED, > > > > > > Under the ZEN BUDDHIST MEDITATION PRACTICES what do you think whomever > > made up this list (you?) thinks is the difference between 'zazen' and > > 'shikantaza'? > > > > > > Thanks...Bill! > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "ED" seacrofter001@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_meditation > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_meditation> > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
